cstone3636

Does anyone have a recent leasing deals they can share. Looking at a 36 month 15K lease with no money down on an Ultra Luxury ES 350. Curious to hear what folks are getting. Thanks

Wiggum

While only 12k miles, my parents are picking up a ultra Lux fully loaded, 18 inch wheels. 469/month. I hope they are getting a good deal. The first month is covered by Lexus. They are also taking the last two payments of the Prius.

Brn2fish

My son walked away when they added his last 2 payments of his IS250 to a new lease money down.
Not sure how would they take payments from another contract.
Also, the lease agreement has a stipulation: when you will be returning your leased vehicle, you will pay another fee about $350-$400. Just keep that in mind.

SW17LS

Thats called a disposition fee, every lease from any company will have that. If you trade it in instead of turn it in you won't pay that.

cstone3636

Thanks Wiggum for the reply. SW15LS I know you been around for a little while and have had the ES along with the GS and LS. I'm going back and forth between a New ES Ultra, a GS350 or a 2013 CPO LS. When I look at the back seat in that GS it looks like it doesn't exist from photos. Can you or others let me know what you thought about the back seat as far as room wise. I like everything else about the car. I have a 2014 Ultra ES that I'm keeping that I'm really happy with but wanting to check into maybe something different on this next vehicle. Thanks

SW17LS

The back seat in the GS is tight. I wouldn't call it nonexistent, my wife and I are both tall and with the front seats adjusted for us there is still room for adults to sit in the back in reasonable comfort, but its tight, knees in the seats, etc. Long term makes for unhappy rear seat passengers.

The ES and LS are significantly better on legroom. Both are more substantial cars with better interiors than the ES, the GS being more firmly sprung but more refined feeling, and the LS being on another level in terms of ride quality, noise isolation, refinement, etc.

If you're not opposed to used vs new, I would seriously consider that CPO 2013 LS. If you use that back seat a lot that would tilt it in the ES' favor.

I wish they made a LWB GS...

What you may want to look at is a Hyundai Genesis. Better space than the GS, more ride biased like the LS, more substantial than the ES...

cstone3636

I appreciate the info on that as I have a 16 year old that will be riding a lot in the back seat during our travels. I actually had a 2011 Genesis before switching to Lexus. It was a nice car, they have been updated a lot as you know since 2011. Unfortunately the 2015 Genesis I took a test drive in just didn't measure up in ride satisfaction for me. Probably had bad tires on it as they had that tire issue around that time. A lot of plastic still in that interior also. They are making big gains and it will no doubt be on a lot of peoples radars in the next couple years but I think I'm staying with Lexus. A better Genesis is just going to make Lexus continue to improve I think. Time will tell. Thanks again

SW17LS

We took a 5 hour trip in the GS once with my cousin and his wife, and they were not happy campers after about 3 hours lets put it that way lol

I'm surprised you didn't like how the Genesis rode. I drove an AWD V6 model and a RWD V8 model and thought both rode great.

cstone3636

I'm kinda shifting between the Used LS and a New ES based upon that back seat. I drove the new ES a couple weeks ago and it was quieter than my 14 Ultra which was hard to believe. I wanted to buy that new Genesis I had researched everything there was to know about each package, etc. but my wife and I went one weekend and drove The ES and the Genesis back to back to back and the Lexus we felt was smoother. I think with a different set of tires on the Genesis it would have made a difference but that wasn't the case that day. I may go drive another one here to see if its any different. I never had a problem with my 2011 I will say that and the Lexicon stereo was nice although the Mark Levinson I wouldn't go without going forward.

SW17LS

I would go drive another one, make sure that the tires are aired to the proper PSI.

In terms of the powertrain I agree that the ES' V6 powertrain is more refined feeling than the Genesis', but the V8 in the Genesis is very smooth. I was surprised how much it reminded me of my LS.