Front Doors Flimsy
06-17-14, 03:38 PM
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Front Doors Flimsy
Has anyone realized how flimsy the front doors are? It's like when you close them you can see them shake/bounce as if therer isnt any reinforcement inside.
06-18-14, 02:04 AM
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Can't say that I've noticed that on mine...
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06-18-14, 04:55 AM
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06-18-14, 06:29 AM
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Yep. I have the 300h. You can see the door vibrate when you shut it. It's kind of concerning, but I don't think there's anything wrong. They probably cut some weight out of the doors to save on gas mileage which in turn made them a little less sturdy. I doubt it sacrifices safety or anything.
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06-18-14, 01:17 PM
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Perhaps, what I've learned most of all is that reading in internet forums is a good way to cause one to have diminished confidence in the products that he/she has bought. I hate to admit that I just spent 10 minutes standing in my driveway, opening and closing the driver's side front door, and looking for "shake/bounce" in the door when it closed. If there is any, I certainly can't see it.
Since I can't see your vehicle, I can't know for sure what you are seeing, but, if you are seeing a flexing of the sheet metal in the door when it shuts, I suggest that it could well be caused by the fact that the ES is built as air-tight as it is. The act of closing the door increases the air pressure inside the cabin. That increased air pressure needs to be relieved, and it could be that the door is flexing a bit as the excess air in the cabin is finding its way out. I know that the fairly air-tight storm door at the front door of my house does the same when it is closed and when the main door is shut. Thus, if the ES door is flexing a bit when it is being closed, it could well be because of how well-built/air tight the vehicle is and not because the door is "flimsy".
06-18-14, 01:23 PM
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I have to say that, in the year since I bought my ES, reading posts on this board has enlightened me about all of the things that are "wrong" with my car, and I've spent more time than I should have spent trying to detect all of these "known issues" in my vehicle. I've spent more time than I should have spent trying to find the supposedly defective leather/padding in the seats. I've spent too much time looking at the passenger seat headrest to see if, when the vehicle is moving, it is rattling about in some sort of abnormal manner. I've driven too many miles with the audio system off to try to hear the rattle in the driver's side window that is supposed to be there. Similarly, I've spent time trying to hear the engine knock that is supposed to be there. I could go on with the list, but you get the idea. And I must not be looking hard enough because, no matter how much I look, I can't find the "problems" that are supposed to be there. Perhaps, what I've learned most of all is that reading in internet forums is a good way to cause one to have diminished confidence in the products that he/she has bought.
I hate to admit that I just spent 10 minutes standing in my driveway, opening and closing the driver's side front door, and looking for "shake/bounce" in the door when it closed. If there is any, I certainly can't see it.
Since I can't see your vehicle, I can't know for sure what you are seeing, but, if you are seeing a flexing of the sheet metal in the door when it shuts, I suggest that it could well be caused by the fact that the ES is built as air-tight as it is. The act of closing the door increases the air pressure inside the cabin. That increased air pressure needs to be relieved, and it could be that the door is flexing a bit as the excess air in the cabin is finding its way out. I know that the fairly air-tight storm door at the front door of my house does the same when it is closed and when the main door is shut. Thus, if the ES door is flexing a bit when it is being closed, it could well be because of how well-built/air tight the vehicle is and not because the door is "flimsy".
Perhaps, what I've learned most of all is that reading in internet forums is a good way to cause one to have diminished confidence in the products that he/she has bought. I hate to admit that I just spent 10 minutes standing in my driveway, opening and closing the driver's side front door, and looking for "shake/bounce" in the door when it closed. If there is any, I certainly can't see it.
Since I can't see your vehicle, I can't know for sure what you are seeing, but, if you are seeing a flexing of the sheet metal in the door when it shuts, I suggest that it could well be caused by the fact that the ES is built as air-tight as it is. The act of closing the door increases the air pressure inside the cabin. That increased air pressure needs to be relieved, and it could be that the door is flexing a bit as the excess air in the cabin is finding its way out. I know that the fairly air-tight storm door at the front door of my house does the same when it is closed and when the main door is shut. Thus, if the ES door is flexing a bit when it is being closed, it could well be because of how well-built/air tight the vehicle is and not because the door is "flimsy".
06-18-14, 04:05 PM
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I have to say that, in the year since I bought my ES, reading posts on this board has enlightened me about all of the things that are "wrong" with my car, and I've spent more time than I should have spent trying to detect all of these "known issues" in my vehicle. I've spent more time than I should have spent trying to find the supposedly defective leather/padding in the seats. I've spent too much time looking at the passenger seat headrest to see if, when the vehicle is moving, it is rattling about in some sort of abnormal manner. I've driven too many miles with the audio system off to try to hear the rattle in the driver's side window that is supposed to be there. Similarly, I've spent time trying to hear the engine knock that is supposed to be there. I could go on with the list, but you get the idea. And I must not be looking hard enough because, no matter how much I look, I can't find the "problems" that are supposed to be there. Perhaps, what I've learned most of all is that reading in internet forums is a good way to cause one to have diminished confidence in the products that he/she has bought.
I hate to admit that I just spent 10 minutes standing in my driveway, opening and closing the driver's side front door, and looking for "shake/bounce" in the door when it closed. If there is any, I certainly can't see it.
Since I can't see your vehicle, I can't know for sure what you are seeing, but, if you are seeing a flexing of the sheet metal in the door when it shuts, I suggest that it could well be caused by the fact that the ES is built as air-tight as it is. The act of closing the door increases the air pressure inside the cabin. That increased air pressure needs to be relieved, and it could be that the door is flexing a bit as the excess air in the cabin is finding its way out. I know that the fairly air-tight storm door at the front door of my house does the same when it is closed and when the main door is shut. Thus, if the ES door is flexing a bit when it is being closed, it could well be because of how well-built/air tight the vehicle is and not because the door is "flimsy".
Perhaps, what I've learned most of all is that reading in internet forums is a good way to cause one to have diminished confidence in the products that he/she has bought. I hate to admit that I just spent 10 minutes standing in my driveway, opening and closing the driver's side front door, and looking for "shake/bounce" in the door when it closed. If there is any, I certainly can't see it.
Since I can't see your vehicle, I can't know for sure what you are seeing, but, if you are seeing a flexing of the sheet metal in the door when it shuts, I suggest that it could well be caused by the fact that the ES is built as air-tight as it is. The act of closing the door increases the air pressure inside the cabin. That increased air pressure needs to be relieved, and it could be that the door is flexing a bit as the excess air in the cabin is finding its way out. I know that the fairly air-tight storm door at the front door of my house does the same when it is closed and when the main door is shut. Thus, if the ES door is flexing a bit when it is being closed, it could well be because of how well-built/air tight the vehicle is and not because the door is "flimsy".
06-18-14, 04:32 PM
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It should be pretty easy to check. Just roll down a window in the car and see what happens to the door flex when you close the door with the open window to provide a place for excess air pressure to relieve itself. I can't guarantee it, but I'd say that there is a good chance that you are seeing the door flex a bit because of how air-tight the build of the car is. I've seen cars with air-tight build actually have the windows flex a bit when the door is closed.
06-19-14, 07:39 AM
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It should be pretty easy to check. Just roll down a window in the car and see what happens to the door flex when you close the door with the open window to provide a place for excess air pressure to relieve itself. I can't guarantee it, but I'd say that there is a good chance that you are seeing the door flex a bit because of how air-tight the build of the car is. I've seen cars with air-tight build actually have the windows flex a bit when the door is closed.
