Hybrid Technology Unique topics related to the ES300h model hybrid drivetrain and other features/options found only on the ES300h. Please use the main 6ES forum for discussion about shared components with other sixth generation ES models.

ES300h battery

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-27-14, 11:02 AM
  #1  
joebruin
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
joebruin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: ca
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default ES300h battery

I've noticed that my battery only charges to 6 out of the 8 bars and have never gotten it to go higher. Anyone else get their battery to fully charge?

Thanks.
Old 01-27-14, 11:15 AM
  #2  
IS350atWOT
Intermediate
iTrader: (1)
 
IS350atWOT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: AR
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by joebruin
I've noticed that my battery only charges to 6 out of the 8 bars and have never gotten it to go higher. Anyone else get their battery to fully charge?

Thanks.
Yeah, but only when going down long hills. I always get a full charge in the Ozarks near the top of Arkansas when traveling some of those long down hill stretches. Otherwise, I'm like you.
Old 01-27-14, 12:10 PM
  #3  
jim256
Lead Lap
 
jim256's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 561
Received 39 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by joebruin
I've noticed that my battery only charges to 6 out of the 8 bars and have never gotten it to go higher. Anyone else get their battery to fully charge?

Thanks.
Had a Prius for 3 years, only saw a full charge once. As I recall, it tries to maintain a middle ground range that is most efficient over many charge/discharge cycles. The Prius Chat forum is a wealth of information if you're looking to learn more about the hybrid system operation and driving technique than ends up on this forum. More than you need to know, really.
Old 01-27-14, 02:38 PM
  #4  
nmvlexus
Driver School Candidate
 
nmvlexus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: KS
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

When I bought my car I was told the battery charging indicator never shows full or empty charging. It is just how it is configured.
Old 01-27-14, 05:14 PM
  #5  
Arty101
Lexus Champion
 
Arty101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SF Bay Area, CA
Posts: 1,897
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

I've gotten it to charge up twice. Took a picture of the graphics to show this but I think it rolled off the iPhone. I also got it while going down a long hill.
Old 01-27-14, 09:48 PM
  #6  
jbm79
Driver
 
jbm79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: GU
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

From what I've read about hybrid batteries, the car computer does not fully charge the battery, nor depletes it completely, in order to optimize its useful life. Repeated full-charge and drainage will shorten its life (i.e. the battery, over time, will not be able to hold much charge, if at all).
Old 01-28-14, 12:54 PM
  #7  
joebruin
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
joebruin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: ca
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks everyone. I thought it was just a result of my driving, short trips under 15 mi. I had driven about 30-40 mi a couple of times but the battery did not charge past 6 bars either.
Old 02-14-14, 08:41 AM
  #8  
unklexus
Rookie
 
unklexus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If the battery was kept fully charged all the time, then braking/coasting charging during that time would be wasted, since it couldn't charge the battery. 'Using up' some of the charge constantly while driving to keep it down a little gives the battery headroom to charge up again when you're coasting, braking, etc.
Old 10-12-14, 06:14 PM
  #9  
DMANF
Driver School Candidate
 
DMANF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: OR
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Dealership informed me this is how it is designed to work. Never indicates a full charge.
Old 10-15-14, 06:34 PM
  #10  
mcomer
Lead Lap
 
mcomer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: IL
Posts: 3,531
Received 844 Likes on 638 Posts
Default

We are used to thinking in finite terms, fuel tank is empty, 1/2 full, nearly full etc. Even with the liquid fuel the gauges were only a general guide to the level inside. Now we are dealing with a bit more abstract measurement, that is "how excited are the molecules". jbm79 is correct, you do not want to "overfill" or its equivalant nor completely stop the chemical process "empty the tank".
Old 07-20-15, 11:08 AM
  #11  
CoastrMom
Driver School Candidate
 
CoastrMom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: VA
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 300h battery question

Does anyone else have a problem with the battery completely dying after about 10 minutes of running? Was waiting in the drive thru lane and it went to gas engine because the battery was empty. Is the battery bad, should it be replaced? This is a 2013 with 22,200 miles.
Old 07-20-15, 11:15 AM
  #12  
Maikerusan
Advanced
 
Maikerusan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Ontario
Posts: 565
Received 48 Likes on 35 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CoastrMom
Does anyone else have a problem with the battery completely dying after about 10 minutes of running? Was waiting in the drive thru lane and it went to gas engine because the battery was empty. Is the battery bad, should it be replaced? This is a 2013 with 22,200 miles.
That is exactly how it is designed. The battery is not bad and it has not died. I t only holds a limited charge. If you are sitting there with AC on idling (on the battery) it will only last about that long. Then the gas engine comes on recharges it etc.

In other words, the battery and gas engine recycle as required.
Old 07-20-15, 01:15 PM
  #13  
Riles
Driver School Candidate
 
Riles's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: NJ
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by CoastrMom
Does anyone else have a problem with the battery completely dying after about 10 minutes of running? Was waiting in the drive thru lane and it went to gas engine because the battery was empty. Is the battery bad, should it be replaced? This is a 2013 with 22,200 miles.
Were you using AC? In the ES300h, the AC compressor runs on high voltage directly from the hybrid battery, so it will deplete the hybrid battery very quickly when the engine isn't running. Trust the engineers though- this is still more efficient than running the engine solely for the air conditioner. Our engines are more efficient at higher-than-idle RPMs, so the car will deplete the battery using the AC, then run the engine at 1200-1400 RPM to bring it up a few bars and shut the engine off, then do it again.

There was an interesting chart on the prius which found that it was a more efficient generator (kwh per gallon) than most home/portable generators.

Originally Posted by DMANF
Dealership informed me this is how it is designed to work. Never indicates a full charge.
Full charge is possible, just not common in normal driving. I sometimes get all bars from going on a long downhill regen. The lowest I've ever gotten it I think is two bars, but now I'm thinking that maybe I've seen one bar before.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TomMartin
ES - 6th Gen (2013-2018)
18
04-19-17 04:39 PM
er34
Hybrid Technology
0
07-15-16 07:53 AM
anl2538
CT 200h Model (2011-2017)
31
12-30-15 11:44 AM
jea
Hybrid Technology
5
12-24-10 11:44 AM



Quick Reply: ES300h battery



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:11 PM.