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Old 01-17-12, 12:14 PM
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An Avalon is not even drive as nice as ES, let along Camry. I own/drive/sell at least 50 Camrys, 3 Avalons, and 4 ES300/330/350. The differnece is very easy to tell behind the steering wheel.
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
An Avalon is not even drive as nice as ES, let along Camry. I own/drive/sell at least 50 Camrys, 3 Avalons, and 4 ES300/330/350. The differnece is very easy to tell behind the steering wheel.
I always suspect you are a used car dealer, since you buy and sell cars so often.

Some people don't drive enough cars to tell differences in refinements, I can understand why they can't tell the difference. Or they don't care enough to tell.
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Our spy photographers have just sent us the first images of Lexus ’ upcoming 2013 ES sedan. Although camouflage still hides most of the car’s exterior, a single interior shot has revealed the ES’ secret weapon.

A close-up of the ES’ gauge cluster reveals a tachometer that appears to have the words ‘Charge’, ‘Eco’ and ‘Power’, indicating that this particular prototype is for an ES Hybrid. That’s big news for Lexus ’ best-seller as a hybrid powertrain has thus far been reserved for the ES’ lesser platform mate, the Toyota Camry.

If the Camry Hyrbid’s powertrain carries over unchanged, we can expect a 2.5L four-cylinder engine mated to an electric motor providing a combined 200 horsepower. The Camry Hybrid achieves 43mpg in the city and 39mpg on the highway, netting a combined average of 41mpg.

Although a hybrid version of the Camry has been on the market for several years now, the ES has maintained its V6-powertrain in the name of upholding Lexus’ premium brand image. However, cylinder count in no longer synonymous with prestige, allowing Lexus to launch a four-cylinder hybrid version of the ES sedan.

No word on when we might see the 2013 Lexus ES in the flesh, but we wouldn’t rule out the upcoming Chicago or New York auto shows.
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Looks like an ES with a GS grill.
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Originally Posted by BNR34
I always suspect you are a used car dealer, since you buy and sell cars so often.

Some people don't drive enough cars to tell differences in refinements, I can understand why they can't tell the difference. Or they don't care enough to tell.
Wrong, wrong, wrong!

I am an insurance agent. I used to buy and sell cars to keep myself happy since I get bored on cars very easily. But not anymore since my agency grow big and I have a hard time just to keep my clients happy.
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Originally Posted by venom21
Looks like an ES with a GS grill.
That's what it will be, imagine the new Camry body with the front and rear end of the 4GS

Umm, I wonder what the next LS will look like
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
Wrong, wrong, wrong!

I am an insurance agent. I used to buy and sell cars to keep myself happy since I get bored on cars very easily. But not anymore since my agency grow big and I have a hard time just to keep my clients happy.
Oh I see. Glad to hear your business is doing good
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Thanks.

BTW, somehow the body looks very Avalon to me.
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
Thanks.

BTW, somehow the body looks very Avalon to me.
Probably cause it is bigger.

Avalon, Camry, ES..............all the same thing really.
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interior looks very GS, just downscaled to the price... more like an audi

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Originally Posted by blacksc400
Thanks.

BTW, somehow the body looks very Avalon to me.
This gen ES will lilkey be Avalon based.

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Old 02-01-12, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
This gen ES will lilkey be Avalon based.
That does not make sense. The Avalon itself is based on the Camry.
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Originally Posted by BNR34
Probably cause it is bigger.

Avalon, Camry, ES..............all the same thing really.
I know its hard for people after 20 years to not jab the ES with the usual remarks but it is by far the best selling Asian luxury sedan and while the internet thugs like to make fun of it, it has done a tremendous job for Lexus and for the entire Asian entry luxury market.

It was cute for people to call the ES a Camry back in the early 1990. Its 2012 now and its simply ridiculous to state.

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That does not make sense. The Avalon itself is based on the Camry.
It wouldn't

You are absolutely correct.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I know its hard for people after 20 years to not jab the ES with the usual remarks but it is by far the best selling Asian luxury sedan and while the internet thugs like to make fun of it, it has done a tremendous job for Lexus and for the entire Asian entry luxury market.

It was cute for people to call the ES a Camry back in the early 1990. Its 2012 now and its simply ridiculous to state.
Woh don't get offended so easily, I was solely talking about the general exterior shape of the 3 cars, not talking about anything else. Me and my family owns and owned 2 ESs already and I love them, they are way nicer then any Camry.

Feels better?

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Old 02-01-12, 06:48 PM
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No one is offended. Going in any ES thread in the universe has the same commentary that is so outdated its not funny. Meanwhile the ES soldiers on as a success any brand wishes they had for over 20 years.

My ES days are over, I rarely ask for them for loaners and the car does not appeal to my wants. I still can appreciate it for being a fantastic example of fulfilling wants and needs for other people without constantly bringing up Camry.

The GT-R is built on the same identical assembly line as the Skyline/G35/37 and it would be condescending to bring that up in a GT-R thread.

My response was really for everyone as there are multiple ES jabs in an ES thread (as usual) on a Lexus forum.


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