pbm317

Nope, do not agree. And BNR is correct that the Avalon and Camry/ES all share common architectures already. I love your "I hear..." comments

GiantsFan

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ES and avalon are BOTH already based on the camry platform ... so nothing will be changing.

And No, I don't agree it is will be built in the US

^Yup!

Me too... makes me lol.

spwolf

quite likely in Canada... but also it doesnt have to be built tomorrow, but it could be in a year or two.

toyota is heavily investing in its ontario plant, with canada giving them $150 million to improve the plants... to me that means export of rav4 and rx worldwide.

97-SC300

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I can't wait to see this car.

Trexus

I have a feeling this might be the 6ES...only Lexus knows and a few CL members.

mmarshall

Enough people actually do it, though.

That's why one has to go look at a car, and drive it, before making any real conclusions.

mmarshall

I'm somewhat late to this thread, but I want to respond to this opening-comment in the article, though.

The current LaCrosse, I'll admit, has a lot of typical GM cheap-plastic and cheap-hardware in its interior, and flimsy some wood/chrome-coated plastic for glitz, but, otherwise, IMO, is anything BUT laughble. Its chassis is superb, offering a reasonably-supple ride with quick steering response (something older Buicks almost never had), little body-lean, and an almost BMW-feel to the steering (yes, in a Buick). In addition, the current LaCrosse offers something that, IMO, the ES should have gotten years ago and still doesn't have (an AWD option).....though, to be fair, Buick does not do as reliable an AWD system as Lexus. The ES, despite Buick's "Quiet Tuning", though, does seem to ride a little quieter than the LaCrosse, especially four-cylinder LaCrosse models.

But, oddly, most of the interior/hardware cheapness problems in the LaCrosse seem to have been addressed by its new smaller-brother Verano. The Verano, IMO, has a noticeably better, higher-quality interior and door/sheet-metal-solidness than the LaCrosse, though it can't equal the LaCrosse's more-supple-ride. Still, the Verano is a nice enough compact that I'm considering one myself.

LexusMan77

If this is the new ES then it would make sense because reports have been saying that it will be like a "baby LS." You can see the LS similarities from the taillights to the rear door windows.

TF109B

I think that picture is the LS, maybe just a slight update. Donno, could be ES- looks like the rear is a bit wider, and a little bump-spoiler on the trunk lid.

IS350jet

The current generation ES has always been called the "baby LS".

Toys4RJill

I wouldn't call the ES350 a "baby LS". Its far from it. While the ES is great car, its still Camry based and nowhere near the design of an LS.

Joeb427

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The smooth and quiet ride is very close to that of a LS460.
The new generation ES is said to be the quietest Lexus ever and probably will be based on the Camry.

LexFather

The ES has been called a "baby LS" for sometime now. Lexus even compared this generation to the first generation explaining how it passed the first LS in many different areas.

We all know its Camry based, how many times are you going to type that out?

Mr. Burns

The current ES already looks like a baby LS. The next ES will look like a baby LS compared to the next LS.

mmarshall

The current LS, even under acceleration, is (arguably) the quietest car I've ever sampled (perhaps only equaled by the massive late 60s-late 70s Lincoln Continentals). I don't want to sound too skeptical, but I'll believe they can make an ES ride quieter than an LS when I see it......or rather, hear it.