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vetdoc May 28, 2022 03:55 PM

TPMS service
 
Hi Guys
I'm putting new tires on my 2013 ES350 UL (60,000 mi) at a goodyear tire dealer. I'm wondering if I should change out the TPMS sensors at the samw time. Lexus says the batteries in the module can last 10 yrs and mine are still working but approaching the 10 yr mark. I would have the goodyear dealer replace them with aftermarket TPMS sensors, around $ 100-110/ wheel installed, This compared with Lexus charging $ 1000/ wheel for Oem sensors!! (no thank you), lol
I could also wait till the sensors fail and then replace them. What do you guys think.

Thanks

montyf May 28, 2022 06:00 PM

2013 es300h -

I just replaced my 4 sensors - 150k miles, 9 years, installed them with new tires
Installer says sensors working fine but not getting a communication with car TPMS system
Thus, I see dashes for each tire but I do not have a low tire light on the dash.
My user manual says I need to register each valve's unique ID code with the dealer
Guess I will go there next
Paid $90/tire for new sensors
thoughts/experiences appreciated

lexo98 May 28, 2022 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by vetdoc (Post 11296723)
Hi Guys
I'm putting new tires on my 2013 ES350 UL (60,000 mi) at a goodyear tire dealer. I'm wondering if I should change out the TPMS sensors at the samw time. Lexus says the batteries in the module can last 10 yrs and mine are still working but approaching the 10 yr mark. I would have the goodyear dealer replace them with aftermarket TPMS sensors, around $ 100-110/ wheel installed, This compared with Lexus charging $ 1000/ wheel for Oem sensors!! (no thank you), lol
I could also wait till the sensors fail and then replace them. What do you guys think.

Thanks

That price sounds high. You should be able to find OEM equivalent for less than that. The OEM
Parts are rebranded and it’s the same sensor. Look for Dill, Pacific or Denso and if tires are being installed I wouldn’t pay additional for labor

lexo98 May 28, 2022 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by montyf (Post 11296768)
2013 es300h -

I just replaced my 4 sensors - 150k miles, 9 years, installed them with new tires
Installer says sensors working fine but not getting a communication with car TPMS system
Thus, I see dashes for each tire but I do not have a low tire light on the dash.
My user manual says I need to register each valve's unique ID code with the dealer
Guess I will go there next
Paid $90/tire for new sensors
thoughts/experiences appreciated

If the tire light is off then most likely the installer already programmed the sensors to the ECU, but he used the wrong sensors. They are not all the same and Toyota/ Lexus vehicles that show the actual air pressure like your vehicle require a different sensor.
Did you pay $90 for each sensor installed?

703 May 28, 2022 08:51 PM

Never use after market sensors. Not guarantee to work. If you want to save money, buy the Denso sensor instead for $50 each, which are actually OEM.

program it yourself, it’s straightforward. You only have to install the serial numbers into TPMS ECU and it’s done.

lexo98 May 28, 2022 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by 703 (Post 11296829)
Never use after market sensors. Not guarantee to work. If you want to save money, buy the Denso sensor instead for $50 each, which are actually OEM.

program it yourself, it’s straightforward. You only have to install the serial numbers into TPMS ECU and it’s done.

Where are you getting Denso for this year for $50?

703 May 29, 2022 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by lexo98 (Post 11296856)
Where are you getting Denso for this year for $50?

$55.98 Lexus OEM https://www.lexuspartsnow.com/parts/...607-30071.html
$46.75 Denso Equivalent: https://www.densoproducts.com/denso-...05-tpms-sensor


ptthere May 29, 2022 04:36 AM

If you're already having new tires put on, then you're better off doing the TPMS sensors while the wheels are bare in-between. Last thing you want is to put new tires on and have sensor batteries start failing a month later.

10 years is a LOT to ask of any battery. The fact you've made it this far with no failures is impressive. Bite the bullet and do it. However...

The price they quoted you is way high. I went a different route. I sourced new wheels and tires from Tirerack, about $1700. Before checkout I was asked if I wanted TPMS sensors installed, also with an optional black valve stem (inside of the wheels are black). All four TPMS units cost me an additional $190 installed (all 4 total) before they shipped everything. After installing the new wheels the local Wal-Mart programmed them to the car for free (took him 2 minutes). They've been working great since last year.

Some tire shops compete with major online retailers. Maybe talk to your shop and see if they'll price-match Tirerack. Haggle with them. Or maybe another option. Even Walmart actually sells TPMS sensors and will program them in way cheaper than what you were quoted.

Or, just live with the dash light. Personally, I wouldn't like rolling around on new tires or wheels without it, especially if you have a kid or significant other that drives it on occasion that might not be savvy with car knowledge. Also if you ever want to sell it, you dont want a private buyer giving you crap about it.

lexo98 May 29, 2022 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by 703 (Post 11296883)

What vehicle is the first link for?
The second link is not direct from Denso. Gotta be careful with all the fakes out there

vetdoc May 29, 2022 09:56 AM

So I found Denso sensors for my 2013 Es350 for $32 on Amazon. They are the same part # as the ones on the Denso site. One of the reviews was from a guy who installed them on his 2014 ES350 and said they work great! I also found a site that has them shipped direct from Denso, for $44, might be more reputable then Amazon ? I just need to see if the Goodyear shop will install and program them during my new tires install. Thanks to all you guys for your replies, it was extremly helpful.

703 May 29, 2022 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by lexo98 (Post 11296997)
What vehicle is the first link for?
The second link is not direct from Denso. Gotta be careful with all the fakes out there

OEM for the 300h as stated.

Second link not a fake.




lexo98 May 29, 2022 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by 703 (Post 11297049)
OEM for the 300h as stated.

Second link not a fake.

not trying to bash just trying to figure things out. I do a lot of sensors but only occasionally on newer Lexus. Pretty sure the first link you provided is for a different vehicle. Also the original poster doesn’t have a 300H

Mike728 May 29, 2022 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by lexo98 (Post 11297067)
not trying to bash just trying to figure things out. I do a lot of sensors but only occasionally on newer Lexus. Pretty sure the first link you provided is for a different vehicle. Also the original poster doesn’t have a 300H

There's no difference in sensors between a 300 and a 350... Anyways, the p/n 703 provided does not fit the 2013 (OP's vehicle). This is the correct p/n: 42607-30060

703 May 29, 2022 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Mike728 (Post 11297082)
There's no difference in sensors between a 300 and a 350... Anyways, the p/n 703 provided does not fit the 2013 (OP's vehicle). This is the correct p/n: 42607-30060

good call-out. OP has a 2013. I was looking at mine for the 2016.

703 May 29, 2022 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by lexo98 (Post 11297067)
not trying to bash just trying to figure things out. I do a lot of sensors but only occasionally on newer Lexus. Pretty sure the first link you provided is for a different vehicle. Also the original poster doesn’t have a 300H

The point I was making is that OEM sensors are not expensive and right within the ball park I provided. Getting a Denso packed box vs Lexus/Toyota is a little bit cheaper but pretty much the same hardware. There is no point of getting aftermarket as the Denso lasts so long.


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