lji

Something to be aware of if you have kids sitting in a car seat behind you in a forward facing car seat. Looks like this isn't just a Toyota/Lexus issue, but across manufacturers.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-j...ack-collision/

bc6152

Wow! Viewing that video is sickening. One can see where severe injuries would result.

nuraman00

I watched a little bit of the video, with the volume down. I saw the crash test dummy simulation.

Why is this a problem in some manufacturers, and not others?

How is this problem solved?

hisstojay

This is a serious issue needing attention. Does that mean severe cabin injuries can occur with such rear impact...are our kids really safe?

pab12

>Does that mean severe cabin injuries can occur with such rear impact...
Yes, I don't believe cars are tested for rear-end collisions so seats are typically not engineered for them. MB and Volvo, however, are well known for having crash-resistant seats.
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hisstojay

Yes, I don't believe cars are tested for rear-end collisions so seats are typically not engineered for them.
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This requires serious concern then

lji

What I could glean from the article is that these accidents are on the rarer side, and the fix is approx. a dollar part, but manufacturers don't want to spend that dollar per car since the seats meets the current federal standard (which is weak in it's requirements - the video showed a banquet chair being able to meet the current bend force requirement). The change that needs to happen is for the federal standard to bring in a more stringent requirement so that car manufacturers will be forced to spend the extra dollar per vehicle to pass the federal standard requirements.

bc6152

Well I think that Toyota will learn from this case very quickly. When a company is forced to pay over 200 million dollars and you have two little girls permanently damaged, the seats will get fixed... Rightly so...

pab12

>>Current Hers: '13 Lexus ES350
>>Current Mine: '15 Jaguar XF (its aubergine)
>This requires serious concern then
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