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nelsona Mar 28, 2016 11:20 PM

Quality differences between Japanese ES and American ES
 
Hello,

Given that the 2016 ES (and a few late model 2015's) is now produced in Kentucky, I was wondering if anyone noticed any differences between the two.

Obviously there's going to be a few differences (regardless of the place of manufacture) as the 2016 ES has gone through a mid-cycle refresh.

But in regards to manufacturing oversights / quality issues; has anyone noticed any problems with the new 2016's?

Thank you,
Nelson

Mike728 Mar 29, 2016 04:52 AM

There were no 2015's built in KY. I have no first hand experience, but some have mentioned issues with their rear doors being harder to close. Otherwise, it's probably too early to know.

jollick Mar 29, 2016 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by nelsona (Post 9425594)
Hello,

Given that the 2016 ES (and a few late model 2015's) is now produced in Kentucky, I was wondering if anyone noticed any differences between the two.

Obviously there's going to be a few differences (regardless of the place of manufacture) as the 2016 ES has gone through a mid-cycle refresh.

But in regards to manufacturing oversights / quality issues; has anyone noticed any problems with the new 2016's?

Thank you,
Nelson

Keep in mind that only the ES350 is made in KY. The ES300h is still made in Japan.

bc6152 Mar 29, 2016 06:20 AM

It usually takes at least one year for kinks to be eliminated in assembly and production for a new car plant. Same for a new car model. I, for one, would not buy a new car from such a plant until a year had passed and all of the numerous TSB's had been addressed. I believe that ultimately the Kentucky Lexus will be every bit as good in quality as the one from Japan.

irishbrahm Mar 29, 2016 02:43 PM

My '16 ES UL was made in Japan.

I bought it in Dec. After 6K miles no problems thus far!

jollick Mar 30, 2016 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by irishbrahm (Post 9426475)
My '16 ES UL was made in Japan.

I bought it in Dec. After 6K miles no problems thus far!

Is your ES a 300 or 350?

irishbrahm Mar 30, 2016 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by jollick (Post 9427152)
Is your ES a 300 or 350?

It's a ES350.

Universe93 Mar 31, 2016 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by irishbrahm (Post 9426475)
My '16 ES UL was made in Japan.

I bought it in Dec. After 6K miles no problems thus far!


No one should be expecting problems with a Lexus ES after 6k miles. Hopefully in the future, you can still say "After 150k miles, no problems this far!"

How did your 2006 BMW 3 series fair in terms of reliability and longevity? Or was that a lease?

irishbrahm Mar 31, 2016 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by AircraftX (Post 9428748)
No one should be expecting problems with a Lexus ES after 6k miles. Hopefully in the future, you can still say "After 150k miles, no problems this far!"

How did your 2006 BMW 3 series fair in terms of reliability and longevity? Or was that a lease?

I bought the '06 BMW as a CPO. I had two problems over the 3.5 years that I had the car. The first was a defective U-joint in the steering rack (luckily covered by the CPO warranty). The second was with a mysterious battery drain which ended up being a failing resistor (CPO warranty had expired).

jollick Jun 27, 2016 09:16 AM

For what it is worth:
Lexus Manufacturing Plants in Kentucky and Japan Win J.D. Power Platinum Awards
https://lexusenthusiast.com/2016/06/...atinum-awards/

Dave Mac Jun 27, 2016 10:41 AM

That is both interesting and encouraging - hope it continues that way.

Dave Mac

Maikerusan Jun 27, 2016 10:45 AM

There was quite a discussion here:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...-us-build.html


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