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jakepdx Mar 28, 2014 08:07 PM

Low fuel and cruising range very conservative
 
I got my low fuel light for the first time the other day, and my cruise range estimated I had 20 miles left when I filled up. I filled up and only added 13.5 gallons (standard gallons as measured in the US, not imperial gallons), which means I still had another 3.5 gallons left, which means I had another 100+ miles before I was truly empty since it's a 17 gallon tank. Not a big deal, but just wanted to share my experience.

lesz Mar 29, 2014 06:54 AM

I don't know that you can be sure that, when you filled up, there was only room for 13.5 gallons. There have been reports from many owners (and threads on this board) of the gas pumps shutting off long before the gas tanks were filled. When the pumps shut off can vary depending on a number of factors, including the sensors in the pumps, pressure, etc. So, it may be the case that you had far less than the 4.5 gallons that you think you had left in your tank when you filled up.

Lexusxoxo Mar 29, 2014 07:20 AM

Is it true that when a ES300h runs out of gas it needs to be towed to the dealer or is my husband just trying to scare me so I don't run it low?? lol

LexBob2 Mar 29, 2014 07:29 AM

In the big picture, I suppose it's safe to error on the conservative side with miles until empty.

Fewer drivers running out of gas on the road. Fewer calls for Roadside Assistance too.

jim256 Mar 29, 2014 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Lexusxoxo (Post 8456603)
Is it true that when a ES300h runs out of gas it needs to be towed to the dealer or is my husband just trying to scare me so I don't run it low?? lol

Here's what the manual (and husband) says: If there is only a small amount of fuel, the hybrid system may not be able to start.

If someone posts "don't worry about it", which/who would you believe?

joebruin Mar 29, 2014 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by jakepdx (Post 8456197)
I got my low fuel light for the first time the other day, and my cruise range estimated I had 20 miles left when I filled up. I filled up and only added 13.5 gallons (standard gallons as measured in the US, not imperial gallons), which means I still had another 3.5 gallons left, which means I had another 100+ miles before I was truly empty since it's a 17 gallon tank. Not a big deal, but just wanted to share my experience.

I get the same thing. And my cruising range hardly goes over 600 mi after fill up. Wonder how cruising range is calculated, with what mpg?

Arty101 Mar 29, 2014 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Lexusxoxo (Post 8456603)
Is it true that when a ES300h runs out of gas it needs to be towed to the dealer or is my husband just trying to scare me so I don't run it low?? lol

Your hubbie is correct. The hybrid shuts down and will require the dealer to reset if there's not enough gas to keep the engine running or batteries charged. Moral of the story is to refuel soon after the fuel light comes on, particularly on the 300h.

uicandrew Mar 29, 2014 03:31 PM

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es3...-capacity.html

here's the thread i started a few months ago

Lexusxoxo Mar 29, 2014 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Arty101 (Post 8456865)
Your hubbie is correct. The hybrid shuts down and will require the dealer to reset if there's not enough gas to keep the engine running or batteries charged. Moral of the story is to refuel soon after the fuel light comes on, particularly on the 300h.

Thank you! :thumbup:

Lexusxoxo Mar 29, 2014 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by jim256 (Post 8456654)
Here's what the manual (and husband) says: If there is only a small amount of fuel, the hybrid system may not be able to start.

If someone posts "don't worry about it", which/who would you believe?

I guess I have to believe the Hubby and the manual.. :)
But I will never tell him he was right.. lol

jakepdx Mar 30, 2014 02:48 PM

uicandrew, that's a great thread - thanks for the link. It confirms what I saw in my driving.

SLH Mar 30, 2014 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Lexusxoxo (Post 8456603)
Is it true that when a ES300h runs out of gas it needs to be towed to the dealer or is my husband just trying to scare me so I don't run it low?? lol

If you run out of fuel, and then run the battery down, the system will not be able to start up even after you add fuel. When the high-voltage battery gets run down so far that it cannot start the gas motor, it needs to be recharged by a special high-voltage charger. That charger is only at the dealer. So, flat-bed to the dealer you go...

It is much less expensive, and much less inconvenient, to just add fuel before you run out.

These cars have a 600-mile range on a tank of gas... there is no good reason to cut it close.

Lexusxoxo Mar 30, 2014 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by SLH (Post 8458761)
If you run out of fuel, and then run the battery down, the system will not be able to start up even after you add fuel. When the high-voltage battery gets run down so far that it cannot start the gas motor, it needs to be recharged by a special high-voltage charger. That charger is only at the dealer. So, flat-bed to the dealer you go...

It is much less expensive, and much less inconvenient, to just add fuel before you run out.

These cars have a 600-mile range on a tank of gas... there is no good reason to cut it close.

I know I know... You sound like my husband.. lol
I did get gas the min my gas light came on yesterday after reading a few posts above.. :D

MissyBissy Mar 31, 2014 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Lexusxoxo (Post 8458882)
I know I know... You sound like my husband.. lol
I did get gas the min my gas light came on yesterday after reading a few posts above.. :D

My minivan goes 38.5 miles after the fuel light comes on. Ask me how I know.

I think I am sufficiently scared not to even risk it now. Thanks!

Arty101 Mar 31, 2014 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by MissyBissy (Post 8460009)
My minivan goes 38.5 miles after the fuel light comes on. Ask me how I know.

I think I am sufficiently scared not to even risk it now. Thanks!

Yes, the hybrids are not like your typical minivan. You really don't want to test it's range. :rolleyes:


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