Why didn't Avalon and ES just switch badges ?
06-19-13, 06:31 PM
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06-19-13, 08:22 PM
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06-23-13, 08:38 AM
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I don't understand this thread. Is it to say the ES interior is not as good, quality wise, to the Avalon, or that you literally mean just to switch badges? The whole exterior and interior of the Avalon design does not conform with current Lexus designs, so it would not be a fit into the Lexus lineup. The spindle grill to the "BMW"esque dash are not present in the Avalon. If you are talking quality, I have not sat in the Avalon yet, but the ES is plenty nice to me, even compared to my LS430.
06-23-13, 11:49 AM
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Taking the looks of the vehicle out of it I can tell you the ES drive is far superior to the Avalon, forget the fancy gadgets of the Avalon and just drive the car. The ES is much quieter, when you run over bumps they feel nice and squishy in the ES while the Avalon hits them with more of a thud. Look and feel the interior and how tight things are, nothing to rattle down the road. It is a better built vehicle with a better suspension. The one downfall I noticed was the ventilated seats are much cooler in the Avalon. *shrug* my 0.2 cents.
http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/avalon...road-test.html
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Avalon engineers stole a move from the Lexus playbook by creating safe-room silence inside. At 59.8 decibels the Avalon recorded one of the lowest 70-mph cruise noise readings we've measured in any car in recent memory — including such costly equipment as the Bentley Continental GT (61.6 decibels) and the Audi A8 L (60.9 decibels).
Avalon engineers stole a move from the Lexus playbook by creating safe-room silence inside. At 59.8 decibels the Avalon recorded one of the lowest 70-mph cruise noise readings we've measured in any car in recent memory — including such costly equipment as the Bentley Continental GT (61.6 decibels) and the Audi A8 L (60.9 decibels).
06-23-13, 11:53 AM
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The results quietly speak for themselves.
06-23-13, 05:50 PM
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I could not find the Edmunds interior noise rating for the ES, I would like to know if they had the same tires, which can make a difference.
06-23-13, 10:22 PM
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Silent but Stately
Avalon engineers stole a move from the Lexus playbook by creating safe-room silence inside. At 59.8 decibels the Avalon recorded one of the lowest 70-mph cruise noise readings we've measured in any car in recent memory — including such costly equipment as the Bentley Continental GT (61.6 decibels) and the Audi A8 L (60.9 decibels).
Avalon engineers stole a move from the Lexus playbook by creating safe-room silence inside. At 59.8 decibels the Avalon recorded one of the lowest 70-mph cruise noise readings we've measured in any car in recent memory — including such costly equipment as the Bentley Continental GT (61.6 decibels) and the Audi A8 L (60.9 decibels).
06-23-13, 10:28 PM
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One reason the Avalon might be quieter at 70 MPH is that the slow sloping rear window is more streamlined so it cuts through the air better. Any way, I'm not going to pick a car just because it's less than one Db quieter.
06-23-13, 11:20 PM
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This is the same review that cite over $4500 between the hybrid and the comparable gas Avalon - the difference is more like $ 1800 that 2 owners commented.
06-24-13, 06:10 PM
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I would pick the 300h for its exterior design and extra 1 yr of warranty. But not for its "quieter ride" and "better handling" because that's just fooling yourself.
06-25-13, 05:07 AM
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I don't think anyone would. But, if one's justification for choosing the 300h over the Avalon is the "quieter ride" then the facts say that simply isn't true.
I would pick the 300h for its exterior design and extra 1 yr of warranty. But not for its "quieter ride" and "better handling" because that's just fooling yourself.
I would pick the 300h for its exterior design and extra 1 yr of warranty. But not for its "quieter ride" and "better handling" because that's just fooling yourself.
06-25-13, 09:19 AM
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We should just be happy there are so many choices in the automotive world, particularly in the world of "badged" automobiles that are in reality quite similar. What is most important for those caught between the Avalon and ES is to extensively test drive both - that might mean prodding the sales advisor to allow an experience better than the typically "canned" route.
Sorry for the platitudinous post, but you can't go wrong with either vehicle!
Sorry for the platitudinous post, but you can't go wrong with either vehicle!