LexBob2

It's a sign of the times. Look at the robust sales of MB and BMW entry level-mid level cars, CUV's and SUV's, many with the fake stuff, and it's apparant the consumers are making the adjustment and accepting non-leather interiors.

timbo813

While we are on this topic, any suggestions for cleaning the nuluxe? My last Lexus had actual leather and I used a leather cleaner that help keep that new car/leather smell. I'm reluctant to use that on the new lexus with the Nuluxe. The owner's manual is pretty generic.

bigblack06

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I would just use a vinyl cleaner from meguiars.

a310pilot

Yes sir. As long as we the consumers accept anything that comes down the chute the quality will keep coming down.

remember warranties on electronics ..... Started with life time ... Down to 5 years and now 1 year is pretty standard. Whats next 3 months?

LexBob2

Lexus, MB, BMW etc. still offer leather as an extra cost option. So if one wants leather it is still available to them.

Fly4u

The "base" leather offered on many makes as optional is generally of mediocre quality. There seem to be two tiers in that a superior quality is offered on higher trim levels or inherent with the mfgr's "flagship" models.

If Nuluxe looks and feels like leather and wears better, that's good enough for me! Personally, I'd prefer not to use animal hides when possible.

a310pilot

It'll go to waste if you don't use it

SW17LS

For cleaning, I would use this:

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/ult-6...FUXf4AodJm0Aig

Fly4u

True, but I prefer to minimize my culpability when able! Like when I didn't eat the chicken breast on my last crewmeal.

Aron9000

Dish soap and water works great on any sort of vinyl or padded plastic surface.

SW17LS

I wouldn't use dish soap, its very harsh and strips out any oils from the product. Use a dedicated cleaner.

LexBob2

I agree. There are a lot of automotive cleaners for leather/vinyl to choose from. Look at the web sites of different brands (Meguires, Mothers etc.) and it should be easy to find a suitable product. The vinyl will require less care than leather.

kg19989

When I had a CT as a loaner it had nuluxe. Seemed okay but certainly felt more like a spongy, porous material than vinyl. Almost as if any cleaner would be absorbed... I would like to hear thoughts on this before I go look at an ES hybrid.... Is my recollection a little off?
thx

SW17LS

The NuLuxe in the ES is a little nicer than the NuLuxe in the CT too as I recall...

ElliotB

I believe the backs and sides of the leather seats are Nuluxe...