2016-2018 Lexus ES350 is better than 2019+ models
 

I just had an extensive try-out today at my local Lexus Dealer

sorry guys. There is something off about the 7th generation ES350 (2019+). The longer wheel base and the response seems a bit off. Also I feel like it’s cheaply made compared to 2016-2018 models.

2013-2015 are a bit outdated. The best of both worlds is the 2016-2018 upgrade. The wheelbase and drivetrain are both perfect. the 2019+ models are trying to be an LS but fails miserably..

Apart from its stiffness (the suspension is stiff on 7ES), 7ES is better than 6ES in every single way.

The suspension on 6ES is perfect. seats are perfect. The size of the car is perfect. 7ES specific the American made ones are trash. I have seen the Japanese ones and they are slightly better

I owned a 6th gen Japan built UL ES and my parents own a US built 2019 Lux. Their 7th gen is built as well as mine was and I actually think it rides better than mine did. If I was still in the market for an ES, I would have no issues with purchasing the 7th gen.

It seems like someone hacked an old account and is just looking for attention.

That’s your opinion although I doubt it.

I was actually shopping for a 3 family members and they all had the same commebts.

the 2016-2018 Lexus ES350 rides better than the new ones. The longer wheelbase made it worse and the simplicity of the 2016-2018 was better.

They also commented on the crappy seats and the cheapiness of the materials used on the dash that scratches easily among other issues..

You doubt that's my opinion? LOL

If you're not just trolling the 7th gen ES, which trim did you test drive? What was the tire pressure at? And FYI, they started cheapening the interior between the 5th and 6th gens. I had no issues with mine, but the dash did scratch easy.

The 7th. gen ES built in Kentucky, USA is equal in every way to the 6th. gen car. In some ways it is superior and the addition of numerous safety systems is the icing on the cake. BTW I owned a 2013 and now a 2019...

:wiggle:

Then drive the 6th Gen.
I drove it, you can’t compare it with the 7th Gen except for the softer suspension but on the other hand it drives like a Buick.


The longer wheel base just helps with the space inside, although it is only 2 inches longer.
You will never notice any difference between the two cars when it comes to drivability because of 2 inch longer or shorter wheelbase.

You’re just a troll.

I test drove both the 6th and the 7th generations several times. I was looking at used low mileage examples. I didn't like the 7th gen. It did feel like a cheaper car, the seat was less comfortable and the ride stiffer. I also just didn't like the style of the interior and the tail lamps. The front end I do like on the 7th gen better, but the 6th gen has more traditional styling which I also fancy.

The other main reason I went with the 6th gen is due to traditional 2gr-fe engine and a U660e 6 speed automatic transmission.

The 7th gen has better safety features for sure, and the navigation is more modern, I am sure.
But, I found a sweet deal on a 2018 with only 26K miles and bought it after a thorough inspection. It looked and felt like a new car.

We all have nice cars, so no point to be hostile to one another.

my 2018 es 350 is built in Kentucky ... supposedly it has better everything as far as quality/ safety but I already had the amp die twice and a check engine on evap system. before that I had the battery die twice from the dealership after multiple investigations it led to the after factory install of the window breakage sensors... they were not going to sleep when the car was and was constantly communicating for whatever reason causing the battery to die. God knows what else awaits me.

Rmak & 703 please exit this thread. No need for the personal commentary and bickering here (posts removed)

I agree!
 

I may be biased here, but I have a 2016 ES, and my friend recently bought a 2023 one. I think the big difference many people miss is that my car is 7 years older than his, but our interiors are broadly the same. It seems as though the car hasn't seen major improvements other than the digitization of the infotainment screen. I feel like each generation of the car should be a huge step up like the GX saw but ES seems to be stuck in the past for almost a decade.

No ES was Built better anyway..... than the 2013 - 2014 J Car made In Japan ES350. :)

2015 was the last year the ES was built in Japan. I can feel the quality of the build!

Yes unless you owned one, you would not understand.

They are just so accurately fit/finished matched up, so tight, and solid. All the Interior and Exterior panel match seamless, no uneven gaps, or differences. The 6th Gen 2013 - 2015 is just different than the 2016+ made in the USA. ;)