Very important info Es owners
05-04-18, 05:30 PM
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Very important info Es owners
Hello everyone I know there’s a huge tread on this subject and other treads I’m sure.
This is the real truth about this problem I bought my es350 about a month ago it’s a 2007 with 120000 miles on it I have noticed some engine noise only for the first few seconds on starting.I’ve seen thanks to club Lexus that there was a recall on this problem being something to do with the cam gears draining while the car sits for some while.So I called my local dealer tom wood Lexus they told me that the recall was not extended after the 70000 mark or 7 years after talking to a tech there he told me that eventually the cam gear could become locked up causing a huge amount of internal engine damage.this is a huge concern for those that hear rattles on start up as the recall no longer applies to my car I asked what it would take to fix the problem $8000!!! dollars more than I payed to buy the car so I called Lexus USA head quarters the lady I talked to was very helpful and curtious she has now passed this on to a higher authority she told me they would get back to me promptly I will keep you all up to date on what they say.
This is the real truth about this problem I bought my es350 about a month ago it’s a 2007 with 120000 miles on it I have noticed some engine noise only for the first few seconds on starting.I’ve seen thanks to club Lexus that there was a recall on this problem being something to do with the cam gears draining while the car sits for some while.So I called my local dealer tom wood Lexus they told me that the recall was not extended after the 70000 mark or 7 years after talking to a tech there he told me that eventually the cam gear could become locked up causing a huge amount of internal engine damage.this is a huge concern for those that hear rattles on start up as the recall no longer applies to my car I asked what it would take to fix the problem $8000!!! dollars more than I payed to buy the car so I called Lexus USA head quarters the lady I talked to was very helpful and curtious she has now passed this on to a higher authority she told me they would get back to me promptly I will keep you all up to date on what they say.
05-07-18, 08:04 PM
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The noise is a knocking sound as you start the engine it only lasts a few seconds.
Lexus got back to me today unfortunately unable to help being as I didn’t buy the car from a Lexus dealer it was sold as seen. So my next avenue is to try to stop the noise by adding some STP it’s a thick gunky stuff you can add to oil to thicken it slightly I’m gonna add about half a bottle. I will let everyone know how that works out.
Thank for reading!
Lexus got back to me today unfortunately unable to help being as I didn’t buy the car from a Lexus dealer it was sold as seen. So my next avenue is to try to stop the noise by adding some STP it’s a thick gunky stuff you can add to oil to thicken it slightly I’m gonna add about half a bottle. I will let everyone know how that works out.
Thank for reading!
05-08-18, 09:14 PM
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Thanks for the post! My 07 makes the same noise when it starts up. I've only had the car for a few months and I didn't notice the noise until about a month ago (it has probably been making the noise since I got it). I really hope that it's not something serious that is causing damage to the engine, or a sign of existing damage. I don't want to take it to the dealership because I know that they will tell me I will have to pay $175 to have the problem diagnosed. My family and I love this car and I want to keep it for as long as I can. It has about 105k miles and other than a leaking front axle (which I am planning on replacing very soon) it is in great condition. Please let me know what you find out about this problem and I will do the same.
05-08-18, 09:38 PM
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What weight oil is in the engine and have you checked the dipstick on level ground to make sure the level is on the full line? I wouldn't have put STP in the engine yet; that stuff will thicken the oil weight and I don't think that's what you want at this point.
05-09-18, 04:31 AM
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I’m thinking this. I run Mobil one 5w30 the cam gear we’re talking about drips down at the car sits so my way of thinking is this makes the oil thicker meaning it wouldn’t drip down.also Mobil one is thin and very slick as in viscosity so by adding something to thinken mean that gear would hold the oil longer
05-09-18, 03:43 PM
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There are a ton of hits about this problem on google across different Lexus and Toyota models. Seems it's more common in cold weather. Also seems that Lexus knows about it and calling it piston slap and says it's normal. You can read more on the various threads google pulls up... many from this site. https://www.google.com/search?source....0.9N7RKF-bOng
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05-11-18, 06:03 AM
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I’m thinking this. I run Mobil one 5w30 the cam gear we’re talking about drips down at the car sits so my way of thinking is this makes the oil thicker meaning it wouldn’t drip down.also Mobil one is thin and very slick as in viscosity so by adding something to thinken mean that gear would hold the oil longer
05-12-18, 01:20 PM
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Hello everyone I know there’s a huge tread on this subject and other treads I’m sure.
This is the real truth about this problem I bought my es350 about a month ago it’s a 2007 with 120000 miles on it I have noticed some engine noise only for the first few seconds on starting.I’ve seen thanks to club Lexus that there was a recall on this problem being something to do with the cam gears draining while the car sits for some while.So I called my local dealer tom wood Lexus they told me that the recall was not extended after the 70000 mark or 7 years after talking to a tech there he told me that eventually the cam gear could become locked up causing a huge amount of internal engine damage.this is a huge concern for those that hear rattles on start up as the recall no longer applies to my car I asked what it would take to fix the problem $8000!!! dollars more than I payed to buy the car so I called Lexus USA head quarters the lady I talked to was very helpful and curtious she has now passed this on to a higher authority she told me they would get back to me promptly I will keep you all up to date on what they say.
This is the real truth about this problem I bought my es350 about a month ago it’s a 2007 with 120000 miles on it I have noticed some engine noise only for the first few seconds on starting.I’ve seen thanks to club Lexus that there was a recall on this problem being something to do with the cam gears draining while the car sits for some while.So I called my local dealer tom wood Lexus they told me that the recall was not extended after the 70000 mark or 7 years after talking to a tech there he told me that eventually the cam gear could become locked up causing a huge amount of internal engine damage.this is a huge concern for those that hear rattles on start up as the recall no longer applies to my car I asked what it would take to fix the problem $8000!!! dollars more than I payed to buy the car so I called Lexus USA head quarters the lady I talked to was very helpful and curtious she has now passed this on to a higher authority she told me they would get back to me promptly I will keep you all up to date on what they say.
i do not mean to add fuel to the fire but you still happy with Tom Wood ?
05-12-18, 08:00 PM
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Hello everyone I know there’s a huge tread on this subject and other treads I’m sure.
This is the real truth about this problem I bought my es350 about a month ago it’s a 2007 with 120000 miles on it I have noticed some engine noise only for the first few seconds on starting.I’ve seen thanks to club Lexus that there was a recall on this problem being something to do with the cam gears draining while the car sits for some while.So I called my local dealer tom wood Lexus they told me that the recall was not extended after the 70000 mark or 7 years after talking to a tech there he told me that eventually the cam gear could become locked up causing a huge amount of internal engine damage.this is a huge concern for those that hear rattles on start up as the recall no longer applies to my car I asked what it would take to fix the problem $8000!!! dollars more than I payed to buy the car so I called Lexus USA head quarters the lady I talked to was very helpful and curtious she has now passed this on to a higher authority she told me they would get back to me promptly I will keep you all up to date on what they say.
This is the real truth about this problem I bought my es350 about a month ago it’s a 2007 with 120000 miles on it I have noticed some engine noise only for the first few seconds on starting.I’ve seen thanks to club Lexus that there was a recall on this problem being something to do with the cam gears draining while the car sits for some while.So I called my local dealer tom wood Lexus they told me that the recall was not extended after the 70000 mark or 7 years after talking to a tech there he told me that eventually the cam gear could become locked up causing a huge amount of internal engine damage.this is a huge concern for those that hear rattles on start up as the recall no longer applies to my car I asked what it would take to fix the problem $8000!!! dollars more than I payed to buy the car so I called Lexus USA head quarters the lady I talked to was very helpful and curtious she has now passed this on to a higher authority she told me they would get back to me promptly I will keep you all up to date on what they say.
05-12-18, 10:06 PM
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I don't know why people insist this is normal or acceptable. While the car may run fine once oil has circulated, was the car (or any car) designed to be this way? I don't think so. I sure hope my 2010 doesn't develop this! The IS and I think the GS have a TSB on this very issue... if it is in fact the cam gears issue.
Here's the IS version of the tsb
Here's the IS version of the tsb
05-16-18, 03:28 PM
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Might be moreso a cold climate problem. None here in Hawaii, so don't hear a thing.
Here's a link to a ToyotaNation thread on the subject. Lots of photos and vids... and quite browser heavy.
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/8-...-start-up.html
Here's a link to a ToyotaNation thread on the subject. Lots of photos and vids... and quite browser heavy.
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/8-...-start-up.html
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