Brake pedal very hard to press in morning but is fine after starting
#1
Brake pedal very hard to press in morning but is fine after starting
Hi,
My '07 ES350 started having this issue where the brake pedal has virtually no play when pressed down to start the car in the morning. After the car is started, I can feel the brake pedal move down as usual and everything brake related functions fine. Problem seems to occur only after the car sits overnight. Brake fluid level is fine and no service indicators in the dash.
I searched the forum and see that some people suggest the brake booster may be the problem. Also found some videos online on steps to take while in the driver seat to test the brake booster. Performed those and the results seems to indicate the brake booster is functioning normally.
If anyone had a similar problem that was fixed, please post what needed to be replaced.
My '07 ES350 started having this issue where the brake pedal has virtually no play when pressed down to start the car in the morning. After the car is started, I can feel the brake pedal move down as usual and everything brake related functions fine. Problem seems to occur only after the car sits overnight. Brake fluid level is fine and no service indicators in the dash.
I searched the forum and see that some people suggest the brake booster may be the problem. Also found some videos online on steps to take while in the driver seat to test the brake booster. Performed those and the results seems to indicate the brake booster is functioning normally.
If anyone had a similar problem that was fixed, please post what needed to be replaced.
#2
Hi,
My '07 ES350 started having this issue where the brake pedal has virtually no play when pressed down to start the car in the morning. After the car is started, I can feel the brake pedal move down as usual and everything brake related functions fine. Problem seems to occur only after the car sits overnight. Brake fluid level is fine and no service indicators in the dash.
I searched the forum and see that some people suggest the brake booster may be the problem. Also found some videos online on steps to take while in the driver seat to test the brake booster. Performed those and the results seems to indicate the brake booster is functioning normally.
If anyone had a similar problem that was fixed, please post what needed to be replaced.
My '07 ES350 started having this issue where the brake pedal has virtually no play when pressed down to start the car in the morning. After the car is started, I can feel the brake pedal move down as usual and everything brake related functions fine. Problem seems to occur only after the car sits overnight. Brake fluid level is fine and no service indicators in the dash.
I searched the forum and see that some people suggest the brake booster may be the problem. Also found some videos online on steps to take while in the driver seat to test the brake booster. Performed those and the results seems to indicate the brake booster is functioning normally.
If anyone had a similar problem that was fixed, please post what needed to be replaced.
#3
About 146k miles on the car. Schematics seem to the show the check valve located directly on the front face of the booster. I haven't looked under the hood yet but is it an easily accessible part to replace?
#4
As I said it should be a cheap replacement . If this is not the issue then the booster may be leaking or the master cylinder may be starting to leak internally. The check valve is a one way valve where engine vacuum pulls on the brake booster diaphragm which assists in braking.
#5
Mine is doing this too. I looked up the part and this is the diagram.
https://www.lexussouthatlantaparts.c...category=21744
The check valve part for 2007-2009 models according to Lexusparts now is 44730-28030.
Jagtoes, do you think the grommet should also be replaced?
https://www.lexussouthatlantaparts.c...category=21744
The check valve part for 2007-2009 models according to Lexusparts now is 44730-28030.
Jagtoes, do you think the grommet should also be replaced?
#6
Mine is doing this too. I looked up the part and this is the diagram.
https://www.lexussouthatlantaparts.c...category=21744
The check valve part for 2007-2009 models according to Lexusparts now is 44730-28030.
Jagtoes, do you think the grommet should also be replaced?
https://www.lexussouthatlantaparts.c...category=21744
The check valve part for 2007-2009 models according to Lexusparts now is 44730-28030.
Jagtoes, do you think the grommet should also be replaced?
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#8
Sorry to bring this up, but Garrryy did you ever figure this out? Im starting to get that stiff brake pedal in the morning too. I have heard some people have success changing the valve and grommet and now this post says you didn't have success. Any one else have any insight/experience?
In addition my ABS has been activating sporadically/intermittently when slowing down to a stop. My searches suggest that the
wheel speed sensors may be acting up. so i might have to check that out too!
In addition my ABS has been activating sporadically/intermittently when slowing down to a stop. My searches suggest that the
wheel speed sensors may be acting up. so i might have to check that out too!
#9
Sorry to bring this up, but Garrryy did you ever figure this out? Im starting to get that stiff brake pedal in the morning too. I have heard some people have success changing the valve and grommet and now this post says you didn't have success. Any one else have any insight/experience?
In addition my ABS has been activating sporadically/intermittently when slowing down to a stop. My searches suggest that the
wheel speed sensors may be acting up. so i might have to check that out too!
In addition my ABS has been activating sporadically/intermittently when slowing down to a stop. My searches suggest that the
wheel speed sensors may be acting up. so i might have to check that out too!
#10
-Charlie
#11
I’m having the same issue and there aren’t a lot of aftermarket brake booster options. I see a new Cardone booster on rock auto for about $300, but not sure how reliable the brand is.
#12
What about getting a used one?
#14
I wonder the same. Mine works fine but it has a small leak which causes my Fuel trims to go whack sometimes. I noticed there was a Bosch one on mine, which I don't think is OEM. I'd like to know as well in case I eventually replace it.
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