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Old 01-20-18, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LjeksesES
The 2010+ model has 268 hp because of the different tuning, not because of the fuel. That engine will have 268 hp on 87 and 93.
Sorry but you are wrong .
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
I bought a 2007 ES350 just as they came out in late April 2006. There was a lot of discussion on regular vs. premium. At the time, every Toyota product with the same engine (Camry, Avalon, Venza, Sienna, Highlander) were recommending regular and showing the 268 hp vs. the ES350 at 275 on premium. You can't go wrong with either grade. Strictly personal choice IMO.
It is 272 HP not 275. http://www.lexus.com/models/ES/specifications https://www.google.com/search?q=2007...hrome&ie=UTF-8
Old 01-21-18, 04:05 AM
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I’ve been using 87 ever since i filled it up the first time. Has worked great the whole time. In fact, it has never been back to the dealer except for the lame floor mat recall right after we bought it. Most dependable vehicle we’ve ever owned.
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it makes difference if it is high mileage. in fact the additional 10c/gal pays you back in performance/mileage and also avoids pinging that cause engine issues.
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Originally Posted by yeskay
it makes difference if it is high mileage. in fact the additional 10c/gal pays you back in performance/mileage and also avoids pinging that cause engine issues.
Sorry that is not true.
Old 01-22-18, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by yeskay
it makes difference if it is high mileage. in fact the additional 10c/gal pays you back in performance/mileage and also avoids pinging that cause engine issues.
Around me the difference between the two grades is .70 to .90 per gallon so the differenceis significant. In any case, use whichever you want in the ES350 and you'll be fine.
Old 01-22-18, 06:31 AM
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Not an ES, I know, but I commute between Milwaukee and O'Hare near Chicago everyday (158 miles round trip) and I've been using regular for 2 years with no noticeable differences. Yes, I'm just cruising along at 70 mph and not doing a lot of heavy accelerating, but the car runs very well on regular and I've had no issues in almost 70,000 miles of commuting. I'm just shy of 181,000 miles now and shooting for 300K...
I agree with LexBob. The cost difference adds up quickly. I spend on average 350.00 a month on gas, which could easily be 450.00 if I was burning Premium all the time, and I don't think the car would even notice...
Old 01-22-18, 06:54 PM
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Yeah, with my lengthy commute, it would cost an extra $60 a month using premium. If I drove a turbo that required it I’d spring fir it. But it’s well established here that premium isn’t really required contrary to what Lexus originally recommended. And in all of my years here and other forums for the ES I’ve never seen or heard about a problem stemming from not using premium fuel.

Bonus: I know exactly how much horsepower I gain for using premium: a whopping 4!
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Around me the difference between the two grades is .70 to .90 per gallon so the differenceis significant. In any case, use whichever you want in the ES350 and you'll be fine.
premium equals less knock- do the math...
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Originally Posted by lhmarquez
premium equals less knock- do the math...
Premium means wasted money.....do that math! I’ve owned my vehicle for going on nine years now and never had a problem or had a knock! It’s just money down the drain caused by the kool aide Lexus was serving to owners. Obviously they ran out and common sense took over.
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Originally Posted by lhmarquez
premium equals less knock- do the math...
In yester-years engine I would say so but in today's engines with knock sensors and engine management systems this is not an issue. Do a little reading up on how these various functions work and what differences the various fuels make. These engines are run all over the world where octane rating change significantly yet they adapt to them.
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Originally Posted by lhmarquez
premium equals less knock- do the math...
Go for it then.
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Go for it then.
Thank you for your feedback... the debate goes on.
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Originally Posted by lgb0250


Premium means wasted money.....do that math! I’ve owned my vehicle for going on nine years now and never had a problem or had a knock! It’s just money down the drain caused by the kool aide Lexus was serving to owners. Obviously they ran out and common sense took over.
I love this!!! The engine simply adjusts!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by jagtoes
In yester-years engine I would say so but in today's engines with knock sensors and engine management systems this is not an issue. Do a little reading up on how these various functions work and what differences the various fuels make. These engines are run all over the world where octane rating change significantly yet they adapt to them.
You're super correct!!!
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Originally Posted by hisstojay
I love this!!! The engine simply adjusts!!!!!!!



You're super correct!!!
I know and thank you.


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