RXGS

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There we go, glad you are enjoying it.

Jbthompson

Thanks! Excited to have it

chuyrobles

I was not so much comparing the two as offering my opinion based on what he wanted. He said he's trying to "reduce my monthly expenses and drive a car that gets better gas mileage." The I4 Camry will get almost twice his trucks mpg, maybe more. This will be a 2nd car; so, I still opine the Camry is a wiser choice than a Lexus for that role.

And it is not 'seriously' under powered. My daughter has one, and it has no problem going over a long hill near our house with 4 adults.

And since I am a DIY, the I4 Camry is a dream to work on compared to our ES350.

gemigniani

0-60 mph Camry I4 7.9 seconds = same as a 1990 LS400 V8

acarapella

Maintenance records aren’t a non consideration on a 10 year old car. I just shopped the 14-17 year old market and the availability of records spoke volumes about how the cars was cared for in general.

Op congrats on your new ride! Here’s to 300k

Jbthompson

Thank you, really enjoying the car. Needs a few things but hooping it will last me a very long time.

igzy

I too am a DIYer, and that may be so only for engine work, and like you said, the rest of the body is the same between the two My dad has an '07 i4 Camry LE so I know first hand.

Gas mileage wise, '07 i4 Camry averages ~25 mpg on mixed drive, and I get 27 mpg with my 10+ year-old ES on mixed drive...

Lastly, when I was shopping for cars a few years ago (time I got the ES), used V6 Camry's were going for more $$ than same year ES's, hence I got the ES

So, IMO, ES is a waaaay better deal than the Camry in every aspect...

RXGS

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I think its because when people shop used, they automatically discount a Lexus because they think it'll cost too much. Thats why cars like the Infiniti QX4, I30/35, and Lexus ES and RX are often cheaper than their more "generic" counterparts once they hit a certain age.

igzy

Yes, very likely! People shy away from used premium vehicles in fear of high (premium) repair costs. For DIYer, they come at bargain prices. The cars you mentioned were all on my short list

ToledoRX

This is only true for Lexus and Japanese luxury cars, not so much for the German luxury brands. Even then, this only applies if you do all your maintenance or have it done at an independent shop. The Lexus dealership service dept will still charge premium prices though.

igzy

Yeah, very true. Once upon a time, I had a 5-series BMW, and parts were amazingly very expensive, even for DIY it wasn't worth it. E.g. BMW OEM oil filter was like $15/pc whereas Toyota/Lexus one is $5. Lexus parts OEM and aftermarket are really priced well. It helps greatly that, for example, ES shares the same platform as Camry so commonly replaced parts are quite affordable (brakes, engine parts, etc.). Service wise, when in need, I take my ES to a Toyota dealer where $hop rates are competitive, whereas for German brands you don't have such an option with dealers...

hisstojay

You're RIGHT; absolutely...

Dallasguy1

Anyone who says Camry and ES are similar cars I don't think so, only the comfort access and touch start button is worth getting the ES not to mention the better interior and exterior quality. I have kept a IS250 two owners, had major engine problems around 150k Miles.

NoiseFree

Speaking about buying a 2007 ES350 170K miles for $5,000...

What do you folks reckon my 2007 ES350 car would go for?
Original owner, 44K miles, no major issues.
No accidents, no battery replacement, no major part replacement etc.
New all season tires last month (first tire change).
Regular oil changes and services, documented.

rlx101

if the car is perfect then id say 9 maybe 10K would be top. But hey, the price is what people are willing to pay for it. run autotrader and see where you should be on price.

btw "no battery replacement" is not a good thing, if thats what you meant. Good Batteries last 3-5 years depending on the climate..tops. after that you basically have to replace it even if the car just sat in a garage all these years.. run a test on it and they will tell you how much life is left.