looking to hook up my new es350
#16
I actually like the dull silver ones, they are really classy.
#17
Most 20-30 year olds can't afford a $50,000+ car. Not unless they are living beyond their means.
Point is, many of these cars are more favored by the older person because most younger people can't really afford such a car. Unless they buy them used or live beyond their means.
Point is, many of these cars are more favored by the older person because most younger people can't really afford such a car. Unless they buy them used or live beyond their means.
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That isn't a "Stereotype". That's a fact. I've worked for a number of financial firms who provide large loans for mortgages and similar expenses. A $50,000 loan for 5 years, even at 0% interest, is more than $800 per month. That's close to $10,000 per year.
The median income of the United States is $50,500. That means that 50% of the country, regardless of age, makes $50,500 or less. That's according to the national census. A car payment of over $800 a month is already reaching 20% of an individual's income. Closer to $25+% when you consider the $50,500 is gross income. And this 50% is ALL ages.
The average income of the 20-30 age group I mentioned is approximately $41,500. Again, the source is the national census and Tax foundation. This is not a "Stereotype". A stereotype would be if I said "All 20-30 year olds live beyond their means and can't afford a $50,000+ car". I specifically said "MOST" and that is a fact. Just because you don't like the facts doesn't make it untrue.
Most 20-30 year olds can not afford an $833.00 monthly car payment. ($50,000 / 60 months @ 0% interest). Almost $700 a month even at 72 months. So assuming the average 20-30 year old makes $41,500, that's approximately $4,500 out for federal taxes. That brings your net income to approximately $37,000. That wage bracket also includes associate's degree or higher; graduating at 22 years old. Assuming no student loans or ANY monthly revolving debt, such a car loan would already be approximately 30% of an individual's income. This doesn't account for any other expenses such as insurance, food, clothing, housing, etc...
Again, I said MOST, and I stand by that. It's not a stereotype. It's fact. Can some afford it without living beyond their means? Yes. Can MOST? No.
The median income of the United States is $50,500. That means that 50% of the country, regardless of age, makes $50,500 or less. That's according to the national census. A car payment of over $800 a month is already reaching 20% of an individual's income. Closer to $25+% when you consider the $50,500 is gross income. And this 50% is ALL ages.
The average income of the 20-30 age group I mentioned is approximately $41,500. Again, the source is the national census and Tax foundation. This is not a "Stereotype". A stereotype would be if I said "All 20-30 year olds live beyond their means and can't afford a $50,000+ car". I specifically said "MOST" and that is a fact. Just because you don't like the facts doesn't make it untrue.
Most 20-30 year olds can not afford an $833.00 monthly car payment. ($50,000 / 60 months @ 0% interest). Almost $700 a month even at 72 months. So assuming the average 20-30 year old makes $41,500, that's approximately $4,500 out for federal taxes. That brings your net income to approximately $37,000. That wage bracket also includes associate's degree or higher; graduating at 22 years old. Assuming no student loans or ANY monthly revolving debt, such a car loan would already be approximately 30% of an individual's income. This doesn't account for any other expenses such as insurance, food, clothing, housing, etc...
Again, I said MOST, and I stand by that. It's not a stereotype. It's fact. Can some afford it without living beyond their means? Yes. Can MOST? No.
#20
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I'm pretty sure the OP is looking for suggestions and pictures not an argument, no wonder new comers never come back to this ghost town of a forum we love so much. Anyone can buy any car they want if they work hard and commit and that's that. I personally apologize to the OP, not all of us are looking for an argument. Please don't let that ruin your experience on these forums there is some good people with good suggestions to all your concerns. There is also a lot of guys with nothing nice to say and no real input with a million useless posts.
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In my opinion, the absolute best "sporty" looking ES350 is owned by member FLIPP4.
You can see his gorgeous black ES350 on page 34 (post #505) in the first sticky in this forum's "Roll Call"
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es3...t-here-34.html
He did this:
2007 es350
color is black (212)
blacked out tail lights
lowered on tein lowering springs for 6cyl camry
20" polished and black wheels tire size 225 35 r20
blacked out inside of front grill
yellow H.I.D. fog lights
10000k replacement headlight bulbs
You can see his gorgeous black ES350 on page 34 (post #505) in the first sticky in this forum's "Roll Call"
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es3...t-here-34.html
He did this:
2007 es350
color is black (212)
blacked out tail lights
lowered on tein lowering springs for 6cyl camry
20" polished and black wheels tire size 225 35 r20
blacked out inside of front grill
yellow H.I.D. fog lights
10000k replacement headlight bulbs
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Heres my ES that was traded in. Help get this stuff out of my garage by buying my old modifications! LINK
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