Well I think it says more than enough when there are people in this thread that have asked/offered to take the lease off your hands. Says a lot about their confidence in the vehicle.

 

nothing can replace a human life, if you think you will have SUA problem and obviously Lexus won't do anything about it. Move on and trade in your car like 1Sick said.

 

Road trip! From MA to CA, sea to shining sea. Although they're oceans.

 

Not going to happen....or as much chance as Lexus giving his money back.... which again..sorry.... but they should'nt.

 

LexBob2: How do you like the 2010 ES350 compared to the 2007? I've got an 07 that's been a total lemon with transmission problems, piston slap, radio & nav & hvac electronics failures, etc., and plan to trade it this year for a '10 or '11 ES or HS. Does the 2010 ES shift better than the 2007 (ie no thunking in stop and go traffic)?

 

Hey now... my Mom lives outside Boston and I've got the time for a nice cross country trip to see America. Fly to Bean Town in a crowded coach section seat and then drive home in the luxury of finely crafted Lexus automobile. Would be not only an adventure filled with fun filled days crossing America, but under the right financial circumstances worthwhile on another level too.

 

The service advisor who helped me this week told me that Lexus has fixed a lot of the quality issues that plagued the 07 ES.

 

My '07 was problem free for the 4 years I owned it so buying the '10 was an easy choice for me. I also looked at the Q5, RX, LaCrosse and G37x. I've been impressed so far with the 2010 ES. It's just a seat of the pants evaluation, but the car seems more solid and quieter than the 2007. All of the tweaks for '10 by themselves are minor but together they really enhance and improve the car IMO. My tranny was fine in the old car and the new one feels solid too. It shifts smoothly and always seems to be in the right gear.

 

We have a 2009 ES350 with a Jan 09 build date. The car is perfect. Drives perfectly, everything works perfectly, it's everything I would expect of Lexus.

And we have no intention of taking it in for the "fix". There is nothing wrong with the car, and the only fear I have is from complications due to a hasty change made in reaction to people putting mats on top of their pedals.

There is absolutely nothing unsafe about this car the way it was originally made. We are not planning to put a mat on top of the pedal so we have nothing to worry about.

 

Amen, Brother!

 

As you can see by my sig, my wife drives an ES. It's a very late '08 build, and she's had no issues. But all this hype has her scared. She put her floor mat in the trunk (I wouldn't do it). I have tried to reassure that if the mat is anchored down she will have no problems, and she sort of believes me. I showed her all the space she has under her gas pedal, and I have told her what to do if the acceleration problem ever happens. She has received the recall notice and I have asked her to wait for the new pedal to be released so she doesn't have her old one hacked up. She's my wife and I cherish her, I would not let her drive the car if I had any doubts at all of it's safety. The media and the money grubbing vultures have blown this up to unreal proportions. As I said, her car has been problem free, as solid as a rock.

Lou

 

lowrideraz - Lou,

Re your post #56 and, of course, with all due respect to you, how do you know your wife's ES350 will NOT go into an uncontrollable acceleration with her at the wheel?

Maybe you should consider getting the ECU reprogrammed for her safety. It's far better to be safe than to be sorry.

Please go read this post relating my experience testing our ES350 after the ECU was reprogrammed.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/5257673-post25.html

JerryF

 

^^^^Thanks you so much for your concern. The pict you have posted was caused by the installation of an incorrect floor mat by a dealer on a loaner vehicle. It was not the fault of the car. Also, the CHP officer driving that car, did not know what to do to prevent that catastrophe. The problem was reported to the dealer by another customer, and the dealer did nothing to remedy the situation. The dealer should be hung. I've done a lot of research on this subject, and I firmly believe that the ES350 is a soundly designed and safe automobile. When the redesigned pedal comes out I probably will have the ECU software updated, but it's just another idiot proof device. I definitely would not do the software upgrade on my car, because of performance issues.

Lou

 

yeah the car had a couple of layers of different floor mats "installed"

 

Simply put, there are no stuck or sticking throttle issues with Lexus or Toyota vehicles. There have been widely publicized, yet rare, floor mat issues, that's all. Just make sure your floor mats are properly installed. I've said this before and I'll say it again. "I would be more than happy to take ANY Lexus or Toyota vehicle that's had a "run-a-way" claim against it and happily drive it DOWN Pikes Peak with my entire family on board without a single worry in the world". That's how confident I am that these claims of faulty electronics are false. I know this because:

1. As a percentage of market share, Toyota's SUA claims are virtually identical to GM, Ford, Chrysler, Nissan, Honda, Hyundai, etc. This fact alone, tells me it's driver error.

2. It's been proven again and again that that a Lexus ES350 or V6 Camry can be brought safely to a complete stop rather quickly, even while the vehicle maintains full throttle.

3. To this day, there still has NEVER been found a sticking or stuck gas pedal in ANY Lexus or Toyota vehicle. Toyota's fix of installing a shim in the pedal assembly is because it was found that over time, the pedal could possibly be slow to return due to friction. They've never actually found this to occur, however, it was only a possibility.

4. Rhonda Smith's 2007 ES350 was traded with less than 3,000 miles on the odometer. The new owner has logged 27,000 trouble free miles. The car currently belongs to the NHTSA.

5. The Saylor crash involving a CHP officer in San Diefo was the result of an improper and improperly installed all weather floor mat. Toyota has already been cleared. It was not a fault of the car.

These are the facts. Anyone with an understanding of how ECTS (Electronically Controlled Throttle System) works would know these claims of faulty electronics are false. I implore anyone with any concerns about the safety of their Toyota to head on over to Toyota's web site. They have some outstanding videos laid out in layman's terms for concerned owners.

The only mechanical issue Toyota has had is a drivers right foot.