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stl2chi 02-01-10 11:41 AM

Why no ES Recall
 
Hey ES owners....

Can someone explain why the ES is not part of the Toyota recall / shutdown due to the sticky accelerator?

Just wondering since the major accident that brought mainstream attention to this issue involved a 2009 ES.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...p-lexus-crash/

Be safe...

encore888 02-01-10 11:59 AM

It's because the faulty accelerator part that is being recalled is on U.S.-built Toyota models, not the Japan-built Lexus ES. After the 2009 ES 350 tragedy, public attention was focused on any Toyota related accident, and there were some recent crashes of Toyota cars where the floor mats were not used--this led to the faulty accelerator discovery.

http://www.insideline.com/toyota/toy...-affected.html


In general, Denso of Japan supplies throttle pedal assemblies for Japan-built vehicles, and CTS supplies the parts to vehicles built in the U.S. and Canada. It's a simple matter of logistics and shipping costs.

Scion and Lexus vehicles are not on the recall list simply because these cars are imported from Japanese plants where Denso pedals are exclusively used. The one exception is the Lexus RX: It is built in Canada, but the pedals used there reportedly come from Denso.
However, the ES 350 is still subject to the earlier floor mat/accelerator pedal override recall. They will replace the mats; reshape the pedal so it's smaller to prevent jams, and reflash the pedal electronics to include a brake override system.

*Batman* 02-01-10 12:25 PM

I am taking my parent's ES350 in for the 1 year service when I visit them this Friday.

Question: Have the dealers begun doing the pedal fix yet? Should I be able to get this done at the same time?

Lexusfreak 02-01-10 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by batman75 (Post 5189815)
I am taking my parent's ES350 in for the 1 year service when I visit them this Friday.

Question: Have the dealers begun doing the pedal fix yet? Should I be able to get this done at the same time?

See encore's post above ^

beagle77 02-01-10 12:53 PM

they are doing the pedal modification already so you should be able to get that done.

flipside909 02-01-10 12:59 PM

Direct from the source, not 3rd party info...

http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/l...spx?ncid=12040

Address Potential Accelerator Pedal Entrapment

Torrance, Calif., November 25, 2009 - - Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc. (TMS) announced today details of the vehicle-based remedy to address the root cause of the potential risk for floor mat entrapment of accelerator pedals in certain Toyota and Lexus models. Toyota issued a consumer safety advisory on September 29 on this issue and has, as an interim measure, commenced the mailing of safety notices to certain Toyota and Lexus owners on October 30.

The models involved are: 2007 to 2010 MY (model year) Camry, 2005 to 2010 MY Avalon, 2004 to 2009 MY Prius, 2005 to 2010 MY Tacoma, 2007 to 2010 MY Tundra, 2007 to 2010 MY ES350, 2006 to 2010 MY IS250, and 2006 to 2010 MY IS 350.

The specific measures of the vehicle-based remedy are as follows:

1. The shape of the accelerator pedal will be reconfigured to address the risk of floor mat entrapment, even when an older-design all-weather floor mat or other inappropriate floor mat is improperly attached, or is placed on top of another floor mat. For the ES350, Camry, and Avalon models involved, the shape of the floor surface underneath will also be reconfigured to increase the space between the accelerator pedal and the floor.

2. Vehicles with any genuine Toyota or Lexus accessory all-weather floor mat will be provided with newly-designed replacement driver- and front passenger-side all-weather floor mats.

In addition, as a separate measure independent of the vehicle-based remedy, Toyota will install a brake override system onto the involved Camry, Avalon, and Lexus ES 350, IS350 and IS 250 models as an extra measure of confidence. This system cuts engine power in case of simultaneous application of both the accelerator and brake pedals.

Toyota is in the process of completing development of these actions and for the ES350, Camry, and Avalon will start notifying owners of the involved vehicles via first-class mail by the end of this year. The remedy process regarding the other five models will occur on a rolling schedule during 2010.

Dealers will be trained and equipped to make the necessary modifications to these models starting at the beginning of 2010. Initially, dealers will be instructed on how to reshape the accelerator pedal for the repair. As replacement parts with the same shape as the modified pedal become available, they will be made available to dealers for the repair, beginning around April 2010. Customers who have had the remedy completed will have the opportunity to receive a new pedal if they desire.

In the meantime, owners of the involved vehicles are asked to take out any removable driver’s floor mat and not replace it with any other floor mat until they are notified of the vehicle-based remedy, as notified in the consumer safety advisory and the interim notice.

The brake override system will be made standard equipment throughout the Toyota and Lexus product lines starting with January 2010 production of ES350 and Camry and is scheduled to be incorporated into new production of most models by the end of 2010.

The safety of our owners and the public is our utmost concern and Toyota has and will continue to thoroughly investigate and take appropriate measures to address any defect trends that are identified.

Owners who have further questions are asked to visit www.toyota.com or www.lexus.com or contact the Toyota Customer Experience Center at 1-800-331-4331 or Lexus Customer Assistance at 1-800-255-3987.

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The latest news about Toyota's consumer safety advisory for potential floor mat interference with the acceleration pedal in certain Toyota and Lexus vehicles:

Setting the Record Straight (Dec. 23, 2009)

A Healthy Discussion on Safety (Dec. 10, 2009)

Unintended Acceleration: Toyota Addresses the Issues (Nov. 6, 2009)

Toyota's Response to NHTSA News Release (Nov. 4, 2009)

Toyota Begins Interim Notification to Owners Regarding Future Voluntary Safety Recall Related to Floor Mats (Nov. 2, 2009)

NHTSA report (Nov. 2, 2009)

Lexus owner letter

Lexus Consumer Safety Advisory: Potential Floor Mat Interference with Accelerator Pedal (Sept. 29, 2009)

Lexus Carpeted/All-Weather Floor Mat Inspection. Application and Installation Instructions (Sept. 29, 2009)

Lexus Carpet Floor Mat Application Information Chart (Sept. 29, 2009)

Lexus All-Weather Floor Mat Quick Reference Chart (Sept. 29, 2009)

VVTiBob 02-05-10 05:54 PM

See my post, #25, in this thread: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es3...shaving-2.html

It explains much as of 2/3/2010.

codejd 02-14-10 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by encore888 (Post 5189761)
However, the ES 350 is still subject to the earlier floor mat/accelerator pedal override recall. They will replace the mats; reshape the pedal so it's smaller to prevent jams, and reflash the pedal electronics to include a brake override system.

I didn't get the replacement mats as stated above because at the time I purchased my car - October 31st, 2007 - the dealer told me there was a problem with the all-weather mats and she was unable to sell them to me. Perhaps they knew about this problem long before that ill-fated day in California.

I did however get the free tank of gas and they addressed a different recall regarding the oil line!

SteadyEddy 02-14-10 07:28 AM

I've had one recall for floor mats already. I have a second recall for mats, I think I'm getting two, last time only the driver side, also recalls for pedal, reflash, and oil line. Fixing all their screw-ups in one trip. Hope I get their free gas my dealer really hates to give anything away.

lextooth 02-14-10 03:03 PM

When did those of you that have already received the Lexus recall letters, that allow you to go to the dealers and have the pedal and electronic update, purchase your cars? I purchased mine on 11-25-09 and have not yet received the recall letter.

*Batman* 02-14-10 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by lextooth (Post 5227857)
When did those of you that have already received the Lexus recall letters, that allow you to go to the dealers and have the pedal and electronic update, purchase your cars? I purchased mine on 11-25-09 and have not yet received the recall letter.

It's possible yours was done before you took delivery. If not, then you can do it anytime now. We got a letter in December, almost everyone did. Maybe you weren't registered with Lexus Owners. Go to Lexus Owners section of the Lexus.com site, and register yourself, your car, and your contact info. Once you type in your VIN and register, you can click on whether there are any active recalls.

Joeb427 02-14-10 05:01 PM

I have an appt for my '10 tomorrow morning.
Just the software update and no pedal or carpet work because I don't want those items done.
I didn't recieve any letter and I bought the ES on Oct.

SteadyEddy 02-14-10 05:33 PM

Mine's a 07 and bought in I think Sept of that year.

sears1234 02-19-10 10:06 AM

I got recall letter from Lexus, and will do a software update for break override on next Tuesday. :thumbup:


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