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mvallido Sep 23, 2006 08:40 AM

ES350 vs Toyota Camry
 
New models, I always get them mixed up on the road. It happened to me a few times already, while driving. I always admire a sharp looking lexus but when I get close it was a camry or vice versa. They appear to look like the same cars with different body kit.

http://www.lexus.com/assets/models/g...ior/ES-907.jpg

http://www.toyota.com/images/vehicle...r/photo_10.jpg

Nextourer Sep 23, 2006 09:03 AM

I haven't done that though although I have heard of people mistaking these two. The grille makes a difference to me so I won't mistake the two. I'm also a detailed kinda guy so I can even tell where you bought an LE, SE, XLE or hybrid even if the differences are just wheels.

LexBob2 Sep 23, 2006 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by mvallido (Post 2140660)
New models, I always get them mixed up on the road. It happened to me a few times already, while driving. I always admire a sharp looking lexus but when I get close it was a camry or vice versa. They appear to look like the same cars with different body kit.

http://www.lexus.com/assets/models/g...ior/ES-907.jpg

http://www.toyota.com/images/vehicle...r/photo_10.jpg

Basically, they are the same with different exterior styling cues. The interior is also different with unique/upgraded materials etc., but the ES350 is based on the new Camry. There's a lot of platform sharing these days.

Pheonix Sep 23, 2006 11:42 AM

Ughhhh, yeah dude, that's true with 80% of the cars on the road LoL! Regardless of what vehicle it is, unless it's a custom build, at some level... It's the same as many other vehicles in an OEM's fleet. The new ES's look no more like a Camry than any ES ever has.

Macklin Sep 23, 2006 12:06 PM

The beauty of the ES is in the details. And oh is this car so much more detailed than the Camry. I especially like the front and rear ends. Stellar!

jeffofla Sep 23, 2006 12:18 PM

But I question the overall purpose of this thread? Why do people feel the need to continually bring up in new thread after new thread what we already know? If someone is so worried about how similiar cars are, then why don't they stick with the car they are most comfortable with ? For me, that's a Lexus. I've driven Toyota Camry's many, many times and while they drive great for the car segment that are intended for, I far prefer my two Lexus.

But it's time to give the Camry vs. ES discussions a rest.

LexBob2 Sep 23, 2006 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by jeffofla (Post 2141012)
But I question the overall purpose of this thread? Why do people feel the need to continually bring up in new thread after new thread what we already know? If someone is so worried about how similiar cars are, then why don't they stick with the car they are most comfortable with ? For me, that's a Lexus. I've driven Toyota Camry's many, many times and while they drive great for the car segment that are intended for, I far prefer my two Lexus.

But it's time to give the Camry vs. ES discussions a rest.

I wonder if they have the same issues on VW/Audi, Nissan/Infiniti, Honda/Acura, Mazda/Ford etc. forums. I never look at any, but am guessing they do.

Gromulus Sep 23, 2006 12:40 PM

LOL :)

Hmmm.

mvallido Sep 23, 2006 01:43 PM

I guess it will take me a while to accept that an ES is a camry with a lot of upgrades or options. LOL! Unlike the other lexus models where you can tell that it is a LEXUS with or without the badge. In the dark or in the light...

mvallido Sep 23, 2006 01:46 PM

I apologize if If I hurt any ES owner's feelings. No PUN intended.

dshahs420 Sep 23, 2006 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Pheonix (Post 2140971)
Ughhhh, yeah dude, that's true with 80% of the cars on the road LoL! Regardless of what vehicle it is, unless it's a custom build, at some level... It's the same as many other vehicles in an OEM's fleet. The new ES's look no more like a Camry than any ES ever has.

What my arguement is that a VW Passat doesnt look like an Audi A6, a honda accord doesnt look like an acura tl or a nissan maxima doesnt look like an infiniti g35. You cant mistake those cars on the road but it is so easy to mistake a camry for a ES and viceversa. To the OP, that you cant differenciate the 2 just means that you are not a car enthusiast. Like someone else said, if you were really a car nerd, you can see the difference right away. I have made the same mistake as you and guess what i am not a car enthusiast by any reach or imagination!

Carbsumer Sep 23, 2006 08:00 PM

Here's a good link to compare the two:

http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...&v=t102681&r=1

They're really dead ringers. Of course I can tell the difference on the road, but it always takes a second look--whereas the difference is obvious between, say, a VW Touareg, a Porsche Cayenne, and a Audi Q7 (all the same platform).

Clearly the extra money on the Lexus goes towards the interior.

07LexusGuy Sep 23, 2006 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by dshahs420 (Post 2141441)
What my arguement is that a VW Passat doesnt look like an Audi A6, a honda accord doesnt look like an acura tl or a nissan maxima doesnt look like an infiniti g35. You cant mistake those cars on the road but it is so easy to mistake a camry for a ES and viceversa. To the OP, that you cant differenciate the 2 just means that you are not a car enthusiast. Like someone else said, if you were really a car nerd, you can see the difference right away. I have made the same mistake as you and guess what i am not a car enthusiast by any reach or imagination!

No, the Maxima doesn't look like the Infinity G35 because the G35 is the clone of the 350Z, NOT the Maxima. Take a look at the previous generations of Maxima and I30/I35 (now extinct), and they are identical with exception of some extra chrome here and there for the I.

Honda did good with their rebadging, Accord/TL/TSX really look apart. Albeit, the current Accord coupe looks like the previous Acura CL from the rear.

Toyota/Lexus share family resemblance - the Camry is one of the best cars in the world - in some countries, the Camry is sold with luxury amenities on par with the Lexus LS here in the states (i.e. HID, power reclining rear seats, rear entertainment system, etc). So even if the ES "looks" like a Camry, there's nothing wrong with having a car based on the best car in the world. I actually, kinda like its resemblance :)

<VENOM> Sep 23, 2006 09:08 PM

I've never mistaken a Camry for an ES but I can tell an M5 from a 525 from a mile away, I've always noticed the details:D

Maybe it's just me but the Yaris looks like a Camry, the front end just looks squished;)

LexFather Sep 23, 2006 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by dshahs420 (Post 2141441)
What my arguement is that a VW Passat doesnt look like an Audi A6, a honda accord doesnt look like an acura tl or a nissan maxima doesnt look like an infiniti g35. You cant mistake those cars on the road but it is so easy to mistake a camry for a ES and viceversa. To the OP, that you cant differenciate the 2 just means that you are not a car enthusiast. Like someone else said, if you were really a car nerd, you can see the difference right away. I have made the same mistake as you and guess what i am not a car enthusiast by any reach or imagination!

Do you have 20/20 vision?
Acura TL and Accord are similar
Passat and A6 don't look too similar, good point
G35,Maxima and all Nissans/Infinitis look identical

Then some people will say they don't, some say they will. Some will say a Lamborghini looks like a Scion. Some will say A CR_V looks like a Range Rover.


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