well i guess u all got me on not gettin the ground controls...i guess i was tryin to find the easy way out

i guees whenever the ksports get up ona group buy i'll think about it more

 

Hmmm do you plan to track your car? Because pillow ball upper mounts make your ride stiffer. If it's comfort you're looking for, the stock upper mounts are what you want.[/quote]

That is very true. I opted the spring/shock combo instead of coilovers because of the long distance driving I do. It's not cost effective or viable for me to have coilovers (i.e. Tein Flex) since they have a regular lifespan and in order to service the shock portion of the coilovers, you have to send it back into Tein here in SoCal for them to rebuild. Since I don't track my car or hit the canyons often, it's somewhat pointless for coilovers unless you're looking for strictly height adjustability and stiffness. For everyday driving, it's pointless. But if it's just for asthetics, then that's the route you want to go.

Companies like Tein, JIC, Zeal, Apex and etc. are reputable suspension companies. You have small companies like D2 and etc offer a cheaper subsitute but they're not known or have the reputation of the companies mentioned above. Sure they replaced them at no charge, but with the companies mentioned above, you don't have issues like popping noises and such. Tein and the other reputable companies have been in the industry for years, and their products are engineered and have been improved over the years for each specific vehicle. There's a reason why they are priced the way they are. But that's great if they replaced them for free, but that doesn't mean they offer an exceptional product. Customer service yes, but product quality and reliability? We'll have to wait on that.

There's a difference with quality product and customer service. Tein and JIC make outstanding suspension systems that are used in all types of applications. It's unfortunate that JIC USA has had a poor record of customer service. The reason why you have JIC coilovers for the Camry platform is because my friends were the one who stepped up to them to prototype the SF-1 and FLT-A2 c/o as well as the JIC Bullet exhausts. They dealt w/JIC USA's B/S to get them out.

 

I came really close to pulling the trigger on the JIC FLT-A2s....but I read somewhere about a nut always going loose and leaking fluids ...so, it kinda scared me off.

I do kinda disagree on your comment that d2/ksport can't hang with companies like JIC,zeal, and apex. I mean common....they have been around for a long time too......maybe we don't/havn't considered them ( or put them on our list) since they are prominently seen on other makes. ( subaru/mazda/nissan ect..)
notice I left out Tein....cause I do realize they're #1

 

the only reason I disagree with you on this one is.........I'm just so glad that I wont be needing to use my stock upper strut mounts...as you know they have issues...noise issues.

I just replaced my two oem upper strut mounts and they didn't even last 2 months....well, at least one of them gave up on me already

 

yeah thats the one