2k Es300 horrendous winter gas mileage?
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2k Es300 horrendous winter gas mileage?
I have a 2000 es300, I get on average 3-340 miles per tank during the summer months of the year which averages out to be about 22mpg. But right around December I started to get significantly worse gas mileage. Just filled up tonight and on my last tank I averaged 13.6 mpg I usually let the car warm up 5 minutes when its cold, don't use the heat excessively, no abrupt stopping, and I'm not a lead foot whatsoever. I rarely accelerate over 3250 rpms, and never over 4k. Also have no check engine lights and the car is running and feeling great. What could be the cause in this drastic decrease in gas mileage?
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New filter, fresh oil, everything is up to par, or so it seems. Probly 65/35 city-highway driving but its the same as in the summer. Also no snow really this year so no wheel spinning.
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Assuming no MIL and that it's running nice and smooth then not much you can do. You can stop letting it warm up for 5 minutes though, that's not helping. With heated O2 sensors the car goes into closed loop in less than a minute and will reach operating temp quicker by driving rather than sitting. Heater shouldn't make any difference in fuel mileage (just turn off the A/C... I do).
Winter mileage can drop for a number of reasons. Cold air is more dense and so requires more fuel to keep the mixture correct. Winter fuel is typically more heavily oxygenated to reduce emissions (at least here in the states) and that just aggravates the situation. None of this is enough to explain your mileage if it's correct. I'd check again to be sure. My 2k ES300 is a little overdue for plugs and a throttle body cleaning but it's getting much better mileage then that. Of course, it doesn't get nearly as cold here.
Winter mileage can drop for a number of reasons. Cold air is more dense and so requires more fuel to keep the mixture correct. Winter fuel is typically more heavily oxygenated to reduce emissions (at least here in the states) and that just aggravates the situation. None of this is enough to explain your mileage if it's correct. I'd check again to be sure. My 2k ES300 is a little overdue for plugs and a throttle body cleaning but it's getting much better mileage then that. Of course, it doesn't get nearly as cold here.
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I have a 2000 es300, I get on average 3-340 miles per tank during the summer months of the year which averages out to be about 22mpg. But right around December I started to get significantly worse gas mileage. Just filled up tonight and on my last tank I averaged 13.6 mpg I usually let the car warm up 5 minutes when its cold, don't use the heat excessively, no abrupt stopping, and I'm not a lead foot whatsoever. I rarely accelerate over 3250 rpms, and never over 4k. Also have no check engine lights and the car is running and feeling great. What could be the cause in this drastic decrease in gas mileage?
After you check for fuel leaks, the next thing I would do is an accurate mileage calculation. I don't know what method you're using, but you should reset your trip meter every time you fill up and use the miles you drove on that tank divided by the actual number of gallons you put in to fill it up to calculate the mileage. If you're already doing that and you're really getting 13.6 mpg, something is wrong, and getting it fixed will save you a lot of gas money in the next few months.
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I have a 2000 es300, I get on average 3-340 miles per tank during the summer months of the year which averages out to be about 22mpg. But right around December I started to get significantly worse gas mileage. Just filled up tonight and on my last tank I averaged 13.6 mpg I usually let the car warm up 5 minutes when its cold, don't use the heat excessively, no abrupt stopping, and I'm not a lead foot whatsoever. I rarely accelerate over 3250 rpms, and never over 4k. Also have no check engine lights and the car is running and feeling great. What could be the cause in this drastic decrease in gas mileage?
I hope you are not idling the engine to warm it up. It wastes gas.
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I have had the car for two winters now but it was my dads the previous 5 or so years. It has 221k on it and get as much 25 mpg in the summer but the past 2 winters have been like this. But there is no fuel leaks and no apparent issues, just happens in the winter. That is how I calculate mileage, not sure that there is even any other way to do it...? It's just bad in the winter and I was wondering how others winters are.. I got 222.1 miles on my last tank and filled it up with 16.2 gallons.
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I have had the car for two winters now but it was my dads the previous 5 or so years. It has 221k on it and get as much 25 mpg in the summer but the past 2 winters have been like this. But there is no fuel leaks and no apparent issues, just happens in the winter. That is how I calculate mileage, not sure that there is even any other way to do it...? It's just bad in the winter and I was wondering how others winters are.. I got 222.1 miles on my last tank and filled it up with 16.2 gallons.
Either you can't drive or parts need to be replaced.
Fluids, spark plugs, check engine light, seized brake caliper, etc.....
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These cars get **** mileage if you live in a very cold area especially if you have a heavy foot. My car was meticulously maintained. Sometimes ignore it is the only answer. I got about 14 mpg in the winter and 19-20 in the summer about 60/40 around town. If you can drive like a 70 year old man and get 20+ in these cars more power to you. I never could...
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These cars get **** mileage if you live in a very cold area especially if you have a heavy foot. My car was meticulously maintained. Sometimes ignore it is the only answer. I got about 14 mpg in the winter and 19-20 in the summer about 60/40 around town. If you can drive like a 70 year old man and get 20+ in these cars more power to you. I never could...
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But I really don't think anything is wrong, everything is up to date and well maintained besides it needs a new timing belt. Think I'll just ignore it as it happened last year and it goes back to normal in the summer.