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Old 08-21-17, 12:45 PM
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Default Would you buy a high mileage CT200h?

I'm looking at a few CT200hs

2012 blue fsport package ct200h 77k miles $15k
2011 base ct200h 63k miles $13k
2013 premium ct200h 2k miles $19k
2012 fsport premium ct200h 49k miles $20k

All are lexus certified from a lexus dealer except the 2012 blue one.

Would you guys buy a high mileage ct200h? I've done alot of reading and it seems other than normal maintenance to he mechanical engine, the hybrid parts start going bad around 150k+? Things like the inverter
Old 08-21-17, 03:44 PM
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It is a Prius drivetrain. They last a long time. There are lot of Prius cabs with over 300,000 miles still going strong. That is not high mileage. Any of the certified ones would be fine. Just get the transmission fluid changed. It is an easy drain and fill of 4 quarts.
Also is that a typo that one only has 2k miles? If so get it.
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As always, try to check for service history on any used car you buy it you plan to keep it long term. Always good to know if it was well maintained or not, and if the previous owner(s) missed anything important.

Luckily, there's no major service on these cars until 100k miles. Just oil changes and a transmission fluid change that, while Toyota says you don't need, is worth doing for the long term.

My car is now exactly 3 years old from purchase date (it was built about 3 months before that), and is sitting at 330k miles. No major problems at all.
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NO WAY AT 150K MILES GOING BAD WITH THE HYBRID BATTERIES. Are you kidding me???!!! Go to most major cities airports and ask as many Toyota Prius taxi drivers and you will find these Toyota hybrids batteries in the CT200h (same as in the Toyota Prius) go for 300K+++ miles TROUBLE FREE!!! TOYOTA/LEXUS GOT THIS HYBRIDS BATTERIES SYSTEMS FIGURED OUT!!! NO WORRIES!!!

Originally Posted by chnk
I'm looking at a few CT200hs

2012 blue fsport package ct200h 77k miles $15k
2011 base ct200h 63k miles $13k
2013 premium ct200h 2k miles $19k
2012 fsport premium ct200h 49k miles $20k

All are lexus certified from a lexus dealer except the 2012 blue one.

Would you guys buy a high mileage ct200h? I've done alot of reading and it seems other than normal maintenance to he mechanical engine, the hybrid parts start going bad around 150k+? Things like the inverter
Old 08-22-17, 04:05 AM
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Reading and research your two worst and best enemies.

RR too much, you get confused.
RR too little, you worried you might but a lemon.

Cars you looking at are babies. Without asking anyone I observed NYC back in the mid 2000's start allowing Prius to be taxi. Then continue to this day.

Common sense would say, if it's such a bad car why would there be do many on the road flying down 10th avenue,??

I hailed a taxi three years ago, a 2011 Prius V with 235,000 on it. Interviewed the driver. He bought new. All he did was tires, oil, 1 set of pads, coolant and shocks (third set needed soon). That was enough for me.

I put 45k in 16 months. First time in my life will I wear out a set of tires from beginning to end.
My next set is a set of run flats.
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77k ... "high mileage" ..... chuckle.
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Originally Posted by chargerfan
77k ... "high mileage" ..... chuckle.
Ditto, gas light lol. When it comes on,I know I have 100 miles to go before I will NEED gas. Even then there's still .75 gallons to hit 11!!!
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Originally Posted by gshadow325
Reading and research your two worst and best enemies.

RR too much, you get confused.
RR too little, you worried you might but a lemon.

Cars you looking at are babies. Without asking anyone I observed NYC back in the mid 2000's start allowing Prius to be taxi. Then continue to this day.

Common sense would say, if it's such a bad car why would there be do many on the road flying down 10th avenue,??

I hailed a taxi three years ago, a 2011 Prius V with 235,000 on it. Interviewed the driver. He bought new. All he did was tires, oil, 1 set of pads, coolant and shocks (third set needed soon). That was enough for me.

I put 45k in 16 months. First time in my life will I wear out a set of tires from beginning to end.
My next set is a set of run flats.
First part of quote, well said.

I saw on that list that you viewed ~60k as high mileage, not so. If it were perhaps an audi or pontiac, then yes, I would worry, particularly without warranty. Most of these cars within the lexus lineup are relatively low-cost in terms of maintenance and their reliability is well-credited.

I purchased my 2012 CT SE F-Sport last year with 64k on it, currently it sits at 80k with zero issues, all I had to do was replace the 12v battery (in the trunk -not the hybrid battery pack) as it was going on 5 years running from the previous owner.
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Originally Posted by tofuprod
First part of quote, well said.

I saw on that list that you viewed ~60k as high mileage, not so. If it were perhaps an audi or pontiac, then yes, I would worry, particularly without warranty. Most of these cars within the lexus lineup are relatively low-cost in terms of maintenance and their reliability is well-credited.

I purchased my 2012 CT SE F-Sport last year with 64k on it, currently it sits at 80k with zero issues, all I had to do was replace the 12v battery (in the trunk -not the hybrid battery pack) as it was going on 5 years running from the previous owner.
Unfortunately, I beg to differ, with all due respect: My brother has a Toyota Camry Hybrid with around 120K miles. This past January, he had to spend ~$5k at the Toyota dealer to install a new high-voltage battery since the old one failed. No other service shop around his area wanted to fix it, due to the car being a hybrid. Statistically, with any sample set, there is always a possibility that one sample point (e.g. car) will fail earlier or later than the others. This was no different. So, don't blindly expect any of these cars, CT or any other hybrid, to not have a major battery fault early in its lifecycle.

Although my brother (esp. due to his wife, who drives it the most) had the vehicle fixed at the dealer, I doubt he will buy a hybrid vehicle in the future. Maybe a diesel...

Anyways, hope this provides some perspective.
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Originally Posted by Isentropic
Unfortunately, I beg to differ, with all due respect: My brother has a Toyota Camry Hybrid with around 120K miles. This past January, he had to spend ~$5k at the Toyota dealer to install a new high-voltage battery since the old one failed. No other service shop around his area wanted to fix it, due to the car being a hybrid. Statistically, with any sample set, there is always a possibility that one sample point (e.g. car) will fail earlier or later than the others. This was no different. So, don't blindly expect any of these cars, CT or any other hybrid, to not have a major battery fault early in its lifecycle.

Although my brother (esp. due to his wife, who drives it the most) had the vehicle fixed at the dealer, I doubt he will buy a hybrid vehicle in the future. Maybe a diesel...

Anyways, hope this provides some perspective.
You should never get a hybrid battery repaired at a dealer, because they don't repair them, they replace them. With a new one. For a lot of money.

There are many shops that only deal with this. They take your battery, and replace it with a refurbished one at half or less than half of dealer cost. Why? Because most of the time a hybrid battery fails, it's only one or two of the battery cells that make up the whole thing. These specialists just give you a battery with all good cells and take yours and replace those one or two bad cells and make it into a working battery again that they can sell to the next person.
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Originally Posted by Isentropic
Unfortunately, I beg to differ, with all due respect: My brother has a Toyota Camry Hybrid with around 120K miles. This past January, he had to spend ~$5k at the Toyota dealer to install a new high-voltage battery since the old one failed. No other service shop around his area wanted to fix it, due to the car being a hybrid. Statistically, with any sample set, there is always a possibility that one sample point (e.g. car) will fail earlier or later than the others. This was no different. So, don't blindly expect any of these cars, CT or any other hybrid, to not have a major battery fault early in its lifecycle.

Although my brother (esp. due to his wife, who drives it the most) had the vehicle fixed at the dealer, I doubt he will buy a hybrid vehicle in the future. Maybe a diesel...

Anyways, hope this provides some perspective.
your post doesn't give someone perspective it gives and opinion on another model vehicle.

Without looking hard enough for someone to repair it. You are stuck paying the dealership to fix it. As easy as you found this thread. This forum or everything else on the internet, you could have done the same for your brother and searched for a repair that is cheaper than 5000 from the dealership. All they know how to do is replace parts with new ones. I don't expect them to do anything less.

Quick simple search with Camry hybrid repair generated lots of hits with fixes from 10 to 1500 and tons of videos on how to do it yourself.

With the CT that shares same platform as Prius. The batteries cost even less than that, I've seen it from 800. Thus your perspective is wrong when it pertains to this vehicle since it's for a different model.
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You should never get a hybrid battery repaired at a dealer, because they don't repair them, they replace them. With a new one. For a lot of money.

There are many shops that only deal with this. They take your battery, and replace it with a refurbished one at half or less than half of dealer cost. Why? Because most of the time a hybrid battery fails, it's only one or two of the battery cells that make up the whole thing. These specialists just give you a battery with all good cells and take yours and replace those one or two bad cells and make it into a working battery again that they can sell to the next person.
Agreed with radin.
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I agree with gshadow and Raidin on this. My father has a 2006 Toyota Prius (Purchased used in 2009 w 35k) and his is still going strong with only normal maintenance required on it since having it. I believe he is at 220K now. I've purchased 12 vehicles in my adult life from New to Used to barely capable of being towed so I do plenty of research when purchasing a vehicle. One of the best places to research used vehicles is on forums like this one. Seeing that my Dad's Prius is immortal and that the Lexus is the much sexier version of that same Prius, My wife and I decided to bite the bullet and buy a used 13 CT base Premium with 80k. One of my deciding factors was the initial cost. I also made sure to purchase the car from a Lexus Dealer because of their mandatory inspections and paid extra for a 4 year 48,000 mile warranty. One thing to note is that extended warranties do not cover hybrid battery replacements so if you do plan on getting a vehicle with high mileage like I did, just know that before signing.
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Originally Posted by Raidin
You should never get a hybrid battery repaired at a dealer, because they don't repair them, they replace them. With a new one. For a lot of money.

There are many shops that only deal with this. They take your battery, and replace it with a refurbished one at half or less than half of dealer cost. Why? Because most of the time a hybrid battery fails, it's only one or two of the battery cells that make up the whole thing. These specialists just give you a battery with all good cells and take yours and replace those one or two bad cells and make it into a working battery again that they can sell to the next person.

Can confirm, had one cell replaced in my 2007 Camry Hybrid. It was less than $300 out the door.

Just search google/yelp/whatever for a Prius specialist. Stay away from chains or anyone that peddles the hybrid battery "recharging" snake oil.
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Of course, there are occasional stories about batteries and inverters failing, but compare that to other cars that have engines and transmissions failing. The drive train is way better than the average car, so its dependability isn't the biggest issue. For me, the determination would be how many miles I planned on driving it and how long I planned on keeping it. The average Joe will pay more for a car with lower mileage, so resale value should be considered if you change cars every few years. I drove a first generation Prius for 13 years before owning the CT and sold it for 30% of my original new purchase price because it had less than 70k miles. The only time it was at a repair shop was for an oil change.
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Originally Posted by Vegasaurus
Can confirm, had one cell replaced in my 2007 Camry Hybrid. It was less than $300 out the door.

Just search google/yelp/whatever for a Prius specialist. Stay away from chains or anyone that peddles the hybrid battery "recharging" snake oil.
I used to wonder about that. So if your battery fails, and it turns out one or two cells are bad, you can get those replaced instead of going with a refurbished battery? That's so cool. I didn't realize it could be done that simply.


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