#1 again
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I’m not against Tesla - I still own nice chunk of their stock and I think they will be EV market leader for at least another 5-7 years.
That doesn’t mean that their product is all great.
Ford Taurus was #1 selling car for many years and it was terrible in many ways.
Great Sales #s don’t equal to being the best product.
That doesn’t mean that their product is all great.
Ford Taurus was #1 selling car for many years and it was terrible in many ways.
Great Sales #s don’t equal to being the best product.
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Re: Tesla "dependability"
Peeps don't read much do they?
"Infotainment systems continue to be most problematic"
Since the entire car is centered around it's infotainment, natural to be higher. Also, the fact it is easy for owners to just complain via the app readily compounds things..
Peeps don't read much do they?
"Infotainment systems continue to be most problematic"
Since the entire car is centered around it's infotainment, natural to be higher. Also, the fact it is easy for owners to just complain via the app readily compounds things..
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like this one which was reported. Please keep it polite and mature here or do not post.
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Re: Tesla "dependability"
Peeps don't read much do they?
"Infotainment systems continue to be most problematic"
Since the entire car is centered around infotainment, natural to be higher. Also, the fact it is easy for owners to just complain via the app readily compounds things..
Peeps don't read much do they?
"Infotainment systems continue to be most problematic"
Since the entire car is centered around infotainment, natural to be higher. Also, the fact it is easy for owners to just complain via the app readily compounds things..
Also said “ “IQS and VDS data are telling us that if the Android Auto/Apple CarPlay connectivity trend continues, this area could take over the least-coveted top spot for problems in long-term durability,” Hanley said. ”
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I didn't have an issue with his post, so why would I report it? I was only suggesting that if he wanted to discuss Tesla, let's do it in the proper thread
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Glad to see mine there. I have not had a single issue but that may change because warranty is about to go out. Lol. But by this time, I already had some issues with my last GX. Korean brands and Toyota surprised me. MB is expected as it was already reported awhile back by CD (?) which was claimed, by youknowwho, to be a non-credited survey. I wonder what they have to say over this. Lol.
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Glad to see mine there. I have not had a single issue but that may change because warranty is about to go out. Lol. But by this time, I already had some issues with my last GX. Korean brands and Toyota surprised me. MB is expected as it was already reported awhile back by CD (?) which was claimed, by youknowwho, to be a non-credited survey. I wonder what they have to say over this. Lol.
Oh...lots lol. They had a lot of rollout problems with their 48V electrical system, a lot of other general reliability problems with that model in that first year.
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One of the youtubers i watch got a Model Y and after a week of owning it had to have the whole battery replaced and car was in there for a month.
The bigger issue is the horrendous battery degradation over time on these Teslas that lose to 30-50miles of range each year. Similar to iPhone which holds charge less and less as it gets older.
The bigger issue is the horrendous battery degradation over time on these Teslas that lose to 30-50miles of range each year. Similar to iPhone which holds charge less and less as it gets older.
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Biggest one is... the wiper but it's not just GLE. GLE specific is build quality and as Steve said, 48V on higher models and some other random shaking/rattles. This is not just MY2020 though. It's still dragging unfortunately. So sad for otherwise a nice luxurious SUV.
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I want to see LS and LX reliability. But since you still can't get an LX (the only one I've seen was one doing a test drive) even in HEAVY Land Cruiser/LX country here who knows when I'll have some data.
200s are all over the place, my NDNs are selling and I think a guy with a black mid-cycle 200 LC might be the new owner. I waved at him like he was the new owner lol, he drove by me as I was against my mailbox grabbing mail in my LX.
I wonder if the 3.4tt is any more reliable in LX.
200s are all over the place, my NDNs are selling and I think a guy with a black mid-cycle 200 LC might be the new owner. I waved at him like he was the new owner lol, he drove by me as I was against my mailbox grabbing mail in my LX.
I wonder if the 3.4tt is any more reliable in LX.
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IMO this is totally expected. I don't know if technologies are different but I would think batteries behave in similar way. After so many charges, it will lose its peak performance, and eventually die. But I guess we can see this as one of wear and tear component in non EVs?
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...ussion-75.html
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Re: Tesla "dependability"
Peeps don't read much do they?
"Infotainment systems continue to be most problematic"
Since the entire car is centered around it's infotainment, natural to be higher. Also, the fact it is easy for owners to just complain via the app readily compounds things..
Peeps don't read much do they?
"Infotainment systems continue to be most problematic"
Since the entire car is centered around it's infotainment, natural to be higher. Also, the fact it is easy for owners to just complain via the app readily compounds things..
Anyway, props to Toyota's Luxury division they've mastered the art of reliability.
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I usually don't use crude terms, but Ford and Lincoln have got to start getting their s*** together on the reliability front. J.D. Power has them almost as low-ranking as Land-Rover. 
...although one hopeful sign is the sharp improvement in the Lincoln Corsair's reliability rating from Consumer Reports after a bad first year.
A shame, too, as Ford has come out with some enormously popular new designs lately, such as the Maverick and Bronco/Bronco-Sport....they can't fill existing demand.
...although one hopeful sign is the sharp improvement in the Lincoln Corsair's reliability rating from Consumer Reports after a bad first year.A shame, too, as Ford has come out with some enormously popular new designs lately, such as the Maverick and Bronco/Bronco-Sport....they can't fill existing demand.
J D Power has just come out with their dependabilty rankings for 2023 and again Lexus is #1. The RX again is the most dependable mid size premium SUV. J D Power over the last 12 years has ranked Lexus #1 in dependability 10 times, #2 once and #6 once. Dominance!!!
https://www.jdpower.com/business/pre...ility-studyvds
https://www.jdpower.com/business/pre...ility-studyvds
i know you're just relaying it, but i find it annoying that jd power calls it a '2023' study when it's info on 2020 vehicles. do owners have to have them for all 3 years?
I want to see LS and LX reliability. But since you still can't get an LX (the only one I've seen was one doing a test drive) even in HEAVY Land Cruiser/LX country here who knows when I'll have some data.
200s are all over the place, my NDNs are selling and I think a guy with a black mid-cycle 200 LC might be the new owner. I waved at him like he was the new owner lol, he drove by me as I was against my mailbox grabbing mail in my LX.
I wonder if the 3.4tt is any more reliable in LX.
200s are all over the place, my NDNs are selling and I think a guy with a black mid-cycle 200 LC might be the new owner. I waved at him like he was the new owner lol, he drove by me as I was against my mailbox grabbing mail in my LX.
I wonder if the 3.4tt is any more reliable in LX.