This is the second vehicle with the 3.4tt where the auto editors complained about an unacceptable noticeably rough idle, the other one being a $120,000 LX600.

Say what you will about that gas guzzling 5.7, but you can't feel or hear a thing idling. I have literally never read about an old V8 Tundra with an overheating transmission either, 6 speed that went with it is rock solid.

On another note, trucks have fat curb weights which is fine but surprised me. The build quality note is pretty concerning, especially since they had two different Tundras. These ain't cheap and they're Toyotas, shouldn't be a problem here.

The disappointing towing experience also shows that we Americans have a lock on the best towing trucks, but that's pretty much always been the case.

 

If I'm reading it right it's using an "electrical assist" for extra torque at the transmission?
Oh boy, I see a maintenance nightmare here.

Not to mention always "being in the boost" on the turbos on a GAS engine if pulling something, I don't like that.
This is because I don't think the engine or the drivetrain will have the longevity of past Toyota trucks, not even a little. IMO

Pulling something like this heavy Bobcat on a heavy double axle trailer is ok once in a while but for everyday use- need to step it up to a domestic 3/4 ton minimum.
They are made for it, especially the starting and stopping with heavy loads and can't go wrong stepping it up to a 1 ton if something like that Bobcat "lives" on the back of it everyday.

However, that's only if the other brand mfg's aren't doing the same thing. lol

 

tundra didnt make it to C&Ds 2023 10Best Trucks and SUVs either

 

Definitely a rough start for the Tundra. I follow the Tundra forum, and the quality is quickly improving but not yet where I think it needs to be. Lots of happy owners on there, though.

 

Waiting this long for the new Tundra only deepens my disappointment with the final product! Toyota obviously bit off more than they could chew. They should stick with their 5-year updates so they don't have to redesign an entire truck in one release.

Maybe I'll wait for an EV truck in the future. In the meantime, my 2001 4x4 Tundra is going strong!

 

Oh well

Looking at the stats. The hybrid doesn’t seem to add much to the performance when loaded

my 4.7 has a feature that prevents you from engaging the starter once the engine is running. I think your 4.3 has this. Sad to see the comments on the 3.5tt. People complained about the old V8 and now look how bad they got it … careful what you wish for

those early 4.7 Tundra engines were assembled in Japan. Very difficult to kill

Toyota needs to make a dedicated truck engine. A V8 option is desperately needed

 

Pipe dream. But I agree. When you say "careful what you wish for" I get it, but It's not really *us* that asked for the V8 to go, it's the government regulations. CAFE, all that crap. Imagine if Toyota didn't cancel V8 development and production, lord there'd be true monster under the hood of this new Tundra. (And Lexus LS, and LX, LC, and new GX, etc.)

We'll see how these downsized engines hold up over the years. I'm not holding my breath. These engines you can't take for granted, you'd best avoid going over on your oil change intervals and other things.

 

Toyota sells enough cars that are fuel efficient to be able to offer an all new V8. Even more so as Toyota now uses engines that were designed for cars and now bolts them into their trucks. Tacoma uses the GS350 engine, I doubt Toyota would put the 3.5 in the Hilux. Only true dedicated truck engine left that I know of is the 4.0L in the 4Runner, also still used in the Land Cruiser 300. And the Prado. There are true V6 diesels that are all new that are made for the LX and Land Cruiser for different parts of the world. You can’t get the LX diesel here but you can get the Escalade diesel. Just another Toyota mistake

I say that I as there was a lot of bashing on the old V8 and how ancient it was called. And all the complaining about why isn’t Toyota updating their motors Now look what you can buy? A car based 3.5TT that is getting mediocre reviews and a Tundra hybrid that didn’t impress Motor Trend for TOTY.

Going back a decade +










or going back a two decades +










‘So yeah… careful what you wish for




Meh. Don’t really care. I am waiting to see what Toyota does with the next 4R.. no way would I be interested in the hybrid parts and guts. Too much complicated stuff for the long term. I also,never really loved the experience of a hybrid anyways.

look at the fuel savings..$100 per year. Is it really worth it? And don’t say it’s because of performance, the MT stats show it made no difference

 

If the numbers are right and CAFE regulations would allow Toyota to build another V8, then they should. Damnit.

Oh yeah but who cares, if people can't understand the concept of "tried and true" then that's on them. Old V8 gets bad MPG and Uncle Sam doesn't like that, big freaking deal. Gas has come down and will get lower and I don't care anyway. The V8 rumble and feel are worth it.

That 2008 Tundra ran 0-60 in 6 seconds flat. To be fair it was a light one not loaded out with options, but yes my point is I never see much complaining about 5.7 V8 performance.

This new Tundra is a disappointment overall in the real world. I'd rather have a '21. Tried and true.

 

Look at Ford. Their V8 equals and matches Toyota V6 fuel economy. Shows how far behind the Tundra is

 

My post above about the Tundra not being the right truck for pulling a Bobcat on a heavy trailer everyday was not to suggest it's a bad truck(cuz I don't know) and I prob should've said that.
Yeah I get it, they want to show the capability of the new model and pulling something heavy is they way to do it.

Just wanted to say that and it's just IMO.

Maybe I am a little naive but I have to believe they are listening.
Not to me, of course. lol
But they will listen to their "bottom line" if the trucks loose interest in the new purchase market AND the resale market.

My step son just bought a Tundra last year.
A few years old and think he said he paid in the low $30k.

Absolutely loves the truck and uses it every day for his flooring business and can pull a light enclosed trailer everyday if needed without it hurting anything.

 

Saw a new tundra at the dealer. Sad to see such poor build quality. This is a 2023

 

oof those look pretty bad! aren't all tundras made in TX?

 

Definitely disappointing to see. I still intend to get one, but not for a while, and only if those kinds of issues have been addressed.

 

Pretty shocking. And it’s not just us on forums. All the publications are pointing it out too.