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Old May 18, 2020 | 06:10 PM
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glovebox is nice material, just jpeg compression destroys the detail. It is still a mid-priced Toyota though, not a Lexus... so nicer than Rav4 for sure.



Old May 18, 2020 | 06:32 PM
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amazes me they still can't go for a modern shifter without the leather *******.

that's what i said ages ago, and my post got locked.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I think that’s a good feature to have. The crappy thing about Apple CarPlay in the new Avalon is that it takes up the whole screen. I was driving it last night and it’s either CarPlay or the onboard system can’t have both. That’s really crappy
Its great to have as an OPTION, but you should be able to have the CarPlay screen go across the whole screen if you want. Such as Lexus navigation systems, I’ve had them both ways where the screen can’t go all the way across and when it can and I much prefer to have the option to use the whole screen for the map if I want.

All you have to do in CarPlay to go back to the Toyota system is press the Toyota app icon.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
glovebox is nice material, just jpeg compression destroys the detail. It is still a mid-priced Toyota though, not a Lexus... so nicer than Rav4 for sure.
This interior is definitely way nicer than Rav4 & also much nicer than competition like Passport, Sante fe, Murano etc. If priced well this could be nice option in this segment.
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Ive never cared either way but now you've ruined leather boots in cars for me FOREVER! I'll never look at it the same.
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Once you see it you can’t unsee it haha
Old May 18, 2020 | 06:42 PM
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So big issue, the second row seats cannot be removed AT ALL. They have side airbags and cannot be removed or stowed.

That sucks.
Old May 18, 2020 | 07:57 PM
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Why would the Sienna and the Venza have different navigation screens. The Venza interior is much better executed. The Sienna interior is worse, but it always has been because it has to be built to a price point. The 2012 model we have in the family has soooo much hard plastic and the newer updated versions weren't that much better.
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Originally Posted by pman6
wheel gap is non issue on SUV. They are meant to be high.
then make the fender opening more of an equal gap around the wheel rather that just a huge gap at the top.

this mazda shows a better approach.



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My other concern about that console is it seems very high. A high console like that makes the interior feel way less spacious.
think of that center console 'roof' as monkey bars for the kids.

Originally Posted by All4Lexus
I'm not so sure smart phone hookups needs to go 'full screen mode'

Toyota seems to be venturing into having that screenspace become a multipurpose type of screen (eg work for car info/feedback/radio/backup cam/climate controls, etc while carplay/android auto may get the lion share of the screen.).
should have the option of full screen or partial + toyota bit.

my car (12.3" screen) calls this the 'assistant window' and you can turn it on or off.

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Ive never cared either way but now you've ruined leather boots in cars for me FOREVER! I'll never look at it the same. ​​​​​​
ROFL at least it's not hairy.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
think of that center console 'roof' as monkey bars for the kids.
True...true. I could lock one in there.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
then make the fender opening more of an equal gap around the wheel rather that just a huge gap at the top.

this mazda shows a better approach.




nah, same issue.





but nothing that can't be solved.



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I see what bit is saying, the wheel wells on the Mazda at least are the same shape relative to the tire and the gap is the same all the way around. The Venza has that Toyota/Lexus "lifted" look
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
then make the fender opening more of an equal gap around the wheel rather that just a huge gap at the top.

this mazda shows a better approach.



That side pic of the Venza definitely looks similar to the CX5/9 with the long front overhang. I do agree though, the Mazda's wheels arches look a little more equal all around.
Old May 19, 2020 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
So big issue, the second row seats cannot be removed AT ALL. They have side airbags and cannot be removed or stowed.

That sucks.
Really odd choice on Toyota's part. Interior flexibility seems to something Toyota feels is not as important for whatever reason. I hope the 2nd row seatback can at least fold flat. Odyssey is just getting that with the facelift, Sedona also doesn't if I remember correctly.



Old May 19, 2020 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Really odd choice on Toyota's part. Interior flexibility seems to something Toyota feels is not as important for whatever reason.
Not necessarily just Toyota. Interior flexibility/space efficiency and outward visibility is something that is already suffering on a number of crossovers and SUVs, because of the styling craze with lower rooflines, slanted/raked rear-hatch-lids, and thick roof-pillars, although one reason for the thicker roof pillars, of course, is better crush-resistance in rollovers.



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