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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Thanks for the reply. So you can plug into a bolt charger? But a bolt can not plug in at your home?
I believe the bolt uses a standardized universal charger (240 plug that a dryer used) at home. Tesla's can also use this. I guess you can charge a Bolt at a Tesla home if the owner decided not to buy the proprietary Tesla wall connector and just use a universal plug. But generally, Tesla charging systems are not compatible with other EVs.
Old Jul 28, 2019 | 08:31 PM
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So here is an article, EV forecasting . A bit older but interesting. I think I agree that Telsa should be referred to as a supplier of premium BEVs as they call them in the article. Something I did not refer to before but will going forward.

https://www.jpmorgan.com/global/rese...ctric-vehicles
Old Jul 28, 2019 | 08:50 PM
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... we also get back to what I mentioned earlier......no EV company, large or small, outside of California (where a decent charging-infrastructure already exists), is really going to benefit in the long run until we, as a nation (and you in Canada as well, if necessary), get cracking on an adequate nationwide charging system. Not everyone has the ability to recharge at home.
Again, wrong. According to this site, as of March there’s 63,000 charging connections in the U.S. all over.

https://evadoption.com/ev-charging-stations-statistics/

third party companies like chargepoint are going berserk building it out.

Edit: but you are right that california is leading the way, by far.

https://evadoption.com/ev-charging-s...ions-by-state/

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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 10:05 PM
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Again, wrong. According to this site, as of March there’s 63,000 charging connections in the U.S. all over.
Still not very many when you have to cover a country that, including Alaska, is the better part of four million square miles. There are (roughly) three times that number of gas stations.....and, even then, some places are sparsely covered.

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Edit: but you are right that california is leading the way, by far.
I'm generally not a big fan of CARB's policies, but that is one of the few things that, IMO, they have done right.

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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 10:14 PM
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Still not very many when you have to cover a country that, including Alaska, is the better part of four million square miles. There are (roughly) three times that number of gas stations.....and, even then, some places are sparsely covered.
but that’s only as of March this year... that number is growing like weeds.

I'm generally not a big fan of CARB's policies, but that is one of the few things that, IMO, they have done right.
Carb, aka government, doesn’t have anything to do with it, i don’t think. Since this is tesla’s home, and since there’s a huge demand for EVs in california, the infrastructure has a big head start on other places.

but california is almost always a bellwether state for many trends, some good, some not so good.
Old Jul 28, 2019 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
but california is almost always a bellwether state for many trends, some good, some not so good.

CA, to my knowledge, is the only one of the 50 states where a certain percentage of EV sales is mandated by law. But outside of giving customers tax credits, there isn't much you can do to force people into EVs if they don't want them. They found that out with previous attempts at legislating-percentages.
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Originally Posted by EZZ
He's just a dumba$$. The Tesla goes nuts when you get within the last 10% of your battery and directs your navigation to the nearest Supercharger. You can even look up the next destination charger because you're connected to Google Maps through the car's internet (which is always available). You can lead a horse to water...
Agreed! This dude is an idiot, and a thief!
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Tesla’s Stock Is Plummeting With $800 Billion in Market Value Loss – Robb Report

Apparently, traditional brand EV's are rising, causing Tesla market share to fall - thus resulting in Tesla stock plummeting.
Old Dec 28, 2022 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by peteharvey
Tesla’s Stock Is Plummeting With $800 Billion in Market Value Loss – Robb Report

Apparently, traditional brand EV's are rising, causing Tesla market share to fall - thus resulting in Tesla stock plummeting.
I think Elon's latest political stances and his focus on Twitter will hurt Tesla's business...if you think about it his core customer at Tesla is progressive, and he's turning himself into an object of that group's ire pretty quickly. I've sold a lot of my Tesla stock...
Old Dec 28, 2022 | 09:34 PM
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A number of different economic factors all together are slowing the sales of Tesla. Simple as that
Old Dec 28, 2022 | 09:38 PM
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Went back and read this thread from the start. Spoiler: almost all of you got it wrong. And you're doing it again.

Keep it up.
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Originally Posted by peteharvey
Tesla’s Stock Is Plummeting With $800 Billion in Market Value Loss – Robb Report

Apparently, traditional brand EV's are rising, causing Tesla market share to fall - thus resulting in Tesla stock plummeting.
still over valued. 2023 will see it fall further, like most other hyped stocks.
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Tesla sales are falling. Tesla costs to build are rising. Tesla needs a cheap new redesigned car. And they can’t deliver
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Tesla sales are falling. Tesla costs to build are rising. Tesla needs a cheap new redesigned car. And they can’t deliver
This will age as well as this. From 2019
Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I don't think electric cars will take over like some people think. At least not in my lifetime. Tesla is making no money right now, so they kind of are irrelevant as a car company needs to make money to show electrics can really work....I also think when the governments impose taxes on those driving electric cars, or surcharges when you plug into the grid you will see a different face of electric car ownership.......and the gas companies have a lot to lose, so lower gas prices will result when there is not enough demand, which will help with ICE.
I will counter your deliberate misinformation and outright lies with facts.

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Apparently, this factor below is at play too.
Gone are the days when Teslas had great resale values.

Prices Of Used Teslas Drop Way Faster Than Those Of Other Brands (insideevs.com)



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