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Old 06-06-19, 07:22 AM
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I'm a bit confused as to whether or not there is a sidewall. This is what the Car and Driver article says about it:

Unveiled at the company's sustainable-mobility-focused Movin'On Summit in Montreal today, Uptis is a tire without a traditional sidewall that carries its load by the top thanks to a new resin-embedded fiberglass material that Michelin was granted over 50 patents for.
I suspect in stating that it doesn't have a "traditional sidewall" they mean it does have a sidewall, just not a traditional load carrying one. I suppose it could mean it doesn't have one at all.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...ss-tire-uptis/
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I'm a bit confused as to whether or not there is a sidewall. This is what the Car and Driver article says about it:



I suspect in stating that it doesn't have a "traditional sidewall" they mean it does have a sidewall, just not a traditional load carrying one. I suppose it could mean it doesn't have one at all.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...ss-tire-uptis/
As a recently retired Michelin tire design engineer, I can state unequivocally that this will not have a sidewall. The “spokes” will be visible.
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Joyriders will be delighted - the police Stingers will be ineffective.
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Originally Posted by mickbrown
As a recently retired Michelin tire design engineer, I can state unequivocally that this will not have a sidewall. The “spokes” will be visible.
Thank you. So that asks my question what about snow and ice concerns?
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Originally Posted by mickbrown
As a recently retired Michelin tire design engineer, I can state unequivocally that this will not have a sidewall. The “spokes” will be visible.
So no explanation huh? I can’t see a car manufacturer release a car with these utterly ugly wheels.
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But think of what I could save on tire dressing.
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
no air means you cant change the pressure to what you want it to be, you get only one level of stiffness and ride, and thats it. This will not be good for a performance or off road vehicle. Where did it say the tire was retreadable, the promo video did not mention it.
As the tires advance and more companies experiment with airless tires, perhaps a company will design one that has adjustable spokes. That seems like a logical progression to me (think about off-roaders vs. track, vs. street, etc...)
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I remember seeing the prototypes for these almost 10 years ago. The intended reason for these tires were for military use over seas in the desert because the roads are terrible over there.
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Originally Posted by shadow1118
I remember seeing the prototypes for these almost 10 years ago. The intended reason for these tires were for military use over seas in the desert because the roads are terrible over there.

Yes, if my memory is correct, they called them "Tweels". They were meant not just for bad roads but also, in military use, to sustain battle-damage from shrapnel without losing air or going flat.
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Here's a video of them in motion. and over bumps.

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