2020 Cadillac CT5 (pricing update post #56)
03-19-19, 07:10 AM
#31
Lexus Fanatic
Why is peak torque available at say 1600 rpm all the way to say 5000 rpm? It isn't as if there's no trade off, just that it's somewhat practical to do today. a NA V8 can't do it. Yet the NA V8 still drives very nicely.
03-19-19, 07:21 AM
#32
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03-19-19, 07:26 AM
#33
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Cadillac has some impressive stuff. This is why I think their might be some envy in some of the responses on here, it’s just hate for the sake of hating. 272hp for the 2.0, the 3.6 is at 335hp. And Cadillac has a 3.0 clearing 400hp. Then you have the V cars, I think 550hp in the CTS and the new Blackwing I think is over 600hp. I forgot, Escalade is over 400hp.
Sometimes you have to give the credit for some brands. It’s funny how all these anti-Lexus threads come and pop up about no LSV8 and then Cadillac is apparently doing the right thing with a new V8 that is modern, and you just hear hate. The new Blackwing engine is handcrafted in the same way AMG does it. What does Lexus do with thier ancient 5.0?
Sometimes you have to give the credit for some brands. It’s funny how all these anti-Lexus threads come and pop up about no LSV8 and then Cadillac is apparently doing the right thing with a new V8 that is modern, and you just hear hate. The new Blackwing engine is handcrafted in the same way AMG does it. What does Lexus do with thier ancient 5.0?
great post 
Virtually all the Cadillacs look good to me on the road. Nowadays, there is extensive LED treatment on big rigs--some with 300+ LEDs. I think Cadillac was the first with this which would imply they know style.
I don't know much about their powertrains, and in my mind again I thought that Ford was out ahead. Lincolns look good too.
Does anybody really think Lexus makes good looking cars today lol
I don't know much about their powertrains, and in my mind again I thought that Ford was out ahead. Lincolns look good too.
Does anybody really think Lexus makes good looking cars today lol
i know in the past hyundai got busted for not living up to their epa claims, etc., but i think those days are over.
03-19-19, 07:28 AM
#34
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about the looks, cadillac has been going with the angular edges design for a long time and i think this new sedan looks great. side view it reminds me of a G80 with sharper edges.
i think it's distinctive without shouting look at me (spindle), and yeah, cadillac does lighting VERY well.
and people seem to forget or aren't aware that gm invented magneto-rheological adaptive suspensions used on ferraris and other vehicles...
gm has its issues, mostly due to being saddled with vast debts and pension obligations making their vehicles more expensive than they should be, but they do some cool stuff.
the chevy volt and bolt were good efforts, but of course tesla gets all the cool points, but i bet gm has learned a lot from those two vehicles and their next gen electrics will be that much better. can't be too long before there's a caddy ev.
i think it's distinctive without shouting look at me (spindle), and yeah, cadillac does lighting VERY well.
and people seem to forget or aren't aware that gm invented magneto-rheological adaptive suspensions used on ferraris and other vehicles...
gm has its issues, mostly due to being saddled with vast debts and pension obligations making their vehicles more expensive than they should be, but they do some cool stuff.
the chevy volt and bolt were good efforts, but of course tesla gets all the cool points, but i bet gm has learned a lot from those two vehicles and their next gen electrics will be that much better. can't be too long before there's a caddy ev.
03-19-19, 10:03 AM
#35
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03-19-19, 10:18 AM
#36
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03-19-19, 10:28 AM
#37
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03-19-19, 10:49 AM
#38
Ok, who in this thread drives a Cadillac?
Nobody?
point made.
You can defend the brand all you want, but not one of you have spoken with your wallets (or purses) and based on how many (or few) Cadillac’s are sold every month, I’m not surprised.
Nobody?
point made.
You can defend the brand all you want, but not one of you have spoken with your wallets (or purses) and based on how many (or few) Cadillac’s are sold every month, I’m not surprised.
03-19-19, 10:53 AM
#39
Racer
Yes. I think Lexus makes beautiful cars today, just as they did in the past. Lexus of today is not Lexus of yesterday, which is great, otherwise, I wouldn't be in one. People keep holding on to this idea of "Lexus" that Lexus seems to be desperately trying to shed. But not sure how this is relevant in a Cadillac thread.
Anyway, the CT5 looks great. It has a nice, muscular stance and great RWD proportions. Refreshing to see a new car nowadays that isn't a crossover or SUV. I think they're evolving their new design language quite well. Since it's based on the Alpha platform, it should have the performance & handling to match its sporty looks. I look forward to seeing reviews on these & hope they make a V version of this.
Anyway, the CT5 looks great. It has a nice, muscular stance and great RWD proportions. Refreshing to see a new car nowadays that isn't a crossover or SUV. I think they're evolving their new design language quite well. Since it's based on the Alpha platform, it should have the performance & handling to match its sporty looks. I look forward to seeing reviews on these & hope they make a V version of this.
03-19-19, 10:56 AM
#40
Racer
You're in "Car Chat" on a Lexus owners forum. Why would you expect anyone to drive Cadillacs? We've clearly got a specific demographic going on here. Go on an Audi forum and ask how many people drive BMWs. Same result.
03-19-19, 01:28 PM
#41
I keep reading on here about how great Caddilacs are.....but nobody has one???
odd.
03-19-19, 03:14 PM
#42
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Cadillac also still has pricing issues and is doing things the old gm way... high prices, big discounts, gotta haggle like mad, totally irritating. I know a guy who sold cadillacs a couple of years back, and he should have been limited to crappy used cars.
But cadillac is getting better, a LOT better.
03-19-19, 05:23 PM
#43
Lexus Champion
They could have done th C pillar better; it really breaks up the coupe like roofline profile they were going for. That's what caught my eye. We see this on the new Accord and it also is seen on the Infiniti Q60. The German trio do C pillars really, really well. The front and back are really muscular and square shouldered and that's a good thing in this class of cars. You'll know this is a Caddy with the classic styling cues like vertical taillights etc.
It's got all the hp/torque anyone could want for street driving. Now Cadillac needs to up their reliability and durability, although whether GM wants to spend money on that is a question. Interesting how Cadillac is all in with the midsize luxury sedan thing while Lexus seems to have abandoned this segment with no news about a new GS. In fact you can sort see a lineage of the classic 2GS here with a long deck and short hatchback-looking rear sloping profile.
It's got all the hp/torque anyone could want for street driving. Now Cadillac needs to up their reliability and durability, although whether GM wants to spend money on that is a question. Interesting how Cadillac is all in with the midsize luxury sedan thing while Lexus seems to have abandoned this segment with no news about a new GS. In fact you can sort see a lineage of the classic 2GS here with a long deck and short hatchback-looking rear sloping profile.
03-19-19, 10:40 PM
#44
Lexus Test Driver
The point here is I don't have the slightest bit of patience for a company that had to be bailed out and still makes more mistakes than most. It's wasted money, time and time again. Then they have the gal to call up a new numbering system that most of the U.S. public won't understand. It's one thing after another. You can tip-toe around this 25 year trainwreck, but I've had it with the scams and failures. As a community, we deserve better.
03-20-19, 03:43 AM
#45
Lexus Fanatic
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