The Five Most Inaccurate Automotive Stereotypes (in mmarshall’s opinion)
03-19-19, 10:49 AM
#31
Lexus Champion
03-19-19, 12:55 PM
#33
Lexus Fanatic
Two things I like about signaling in my BMW--as mentioned, the switch which has no detent and returns to center. The other is the cornering lamps are activated, which are the inners, as the outers are bixenon. Not sure how they do it today with the LEDs. If a BMW driver doesn't signal, they would not know the joy that I feel when doing so. 
03-20-19, 06:19 AM
#35
Lexus Fanatic
Mine is a garage queen, and I took it to work today, been sitting since late Dec. I kept telling myself on the way to work, "Don't you do it!! Do NOT!!! Don't drive like a do****!!" lol (I really didnt' haha)
03-21-19, 06:37 AM
#36
Pole Position
3. BMW drivers, as a whole, are arrogant and reckless.
Yes, a number of past-generation BMW 3-series drivers, particularly with M3s, did have a reputation for thinking that the road basically belonged to them (I've made reference to that in some past posts, while pointing out that V8 Mustang jocks are often even worse). But, even then, the vast majority of BMW drivers (even with the 3-series) and the majority of Mustang jocks that I see are just as careful as anyone else. One thing, of course, that has changed with recent BMWs, is the engineering and image of the vehicles themselves....from the "Ultimate Driving Machine" to essentially just another mainstream brand....that, to at least some extent, has also affected the character of some of those who drive them.
Yes, a number of past-generation BMW 3-series drivers, particularly with M3s, did have a reputation for thinking that the road basically belonged to them (I've made reference to that in some past posts, while pointing out that V8 Mustang jocks are often even worse). But, even then, the vast majority of BMW drivers (even with the 3-series) and the majority of Mustang jocks that I see are just as careful as anyone else. One thing, of course, that has changed with recent BMWs, is the engineering and image of the vehicles themselves....from the "Ultimate Driving Machine" to essentially just another mainstream brand....that, to at least some extent, has also affected the character of some of those who drive them.
03-21-19, 06:41 AM
#37
Pole Position
I can't agree with this little point:
"The long production life of these components is one of the things that, in my view, has helped with their low level of problems and repairs. Unfortunately, since much of Toyota's money goes to engineering durability and reliability into the underpinnings and drivetrain, little seems to be left over for the interior, body sheet metal, and hardware"
It is exactly this that Toyota/Lexus should have more money for better interior materials. Once those powertrains are on the market, and like you said, they will remain on the market unchanged for a decade or more, the savings from not updating those powertrains should be more than enough to source better interior materials.
"The long production life of these components is one of the things that, in my view, has helped with their low level of problems and repairs. Unfortunately, since much of Toyota's money goes to engineering durability and reliability into the underpinnings and drivetrain, little seems to be left over for the interior, body sheet metal, and hardware"
It is exactly this that Toyota/Lexus should have more money for better interior materials. Once those powertrains are on the market, and like you said, they will remain on the market unchanged for a decade or more, the savings from not updating those powertrains should be more than enough to source better interior materials.
03-21-19, 07:18 AM
#38
Lexus Fanatic
I can't agree with this little point:
"The long production life of these components is one of the things that, in my view, has helped with their low level of problems and repairs. Unfortunately, since much of Toyota's money goes to engineering durability and reliability into the underpinnings and drivetrain, little seems to be left over for the interior, body sheet metal, and hardware"
It is exactly this that Toyota/Lexus should have more money for better interior materials. Once those powertrains are on the market, and like you said, they will remain on the market unchanged for a decade or more, the savings from not updating those powertrains should be more than enough to source better interior materials.
"The long production life of these components is one of the things that, in my view, has helped with their low level of problems and repairs. Unfortunately, since much of Toyota's money goes to engineering durability and reliability into the underpinnings and drivetrain, little seems to be left over for the interior, body sheet metal, and hardware"
It is exactly this that Toyota/Lexus should have more money for better interior materials. Once those powertrains are on the market, and like you said, they will remain on the market unchanged for a decade or more, the savings from not updating those powertrains should be more than enough to source better interior materials.
The long productivlob lives of Toyota mechanicals is a myth. There are lots and lots of Toyota examples where they use brand new tech etc etc.
03-21-19, 08:00 AM
#39
Lexus Fanatic
I can't agree with this little point:
"The long production life of these components is one of the things that, in my view, has helped with their low level of problems and repairs. Unfortunately, since much of Toyota's money goes to engineering durability and reliability into the underpinnings and drivetrain, little seems to be left over for the interior, body sheet metal, and hardware"
It is exactly this that Toyota/Lexus should have more money for better interior materials. Once those powertrains are on the market, and like you said, they will remain on the market unchanged for a decade or more, the savings from not updating those powertrains should be more than enough to source better interior materials.
"The long production life of these components is one of the things that, in my view, has helped with their low level of problems and repairs. Unfortunately, since much of Toyota's money goes to engineering durability and reliability into the underpinnings and drivetrain, little seems to be left over for the interior, body sheet metal, and hardware"
It is exactly this that Toyota/Lexus should have more money for better interior materials. Once those powertrains are on the market, and like you said, they will remain on the market unchanged for a decade or more, the savings from not updating those powertrains should be more than enough to source better interior materials.
03-21-19, 08:02 AM
#40
Lexus Fanatic
The interiors of Toyota and Lexus models are fine. OP just does not like them. Toyota and almost all manufacturers are competitive within one another. It comes down to what one likes. I don’t think the original IS interior is anything to write home about. It’s good. But so are the new models.
The long productivlob lives of Toyota mechanicals is a myth. There are lots and lots of Toyota examples where they use brand new tech etc etc.
03-21-19, 08:05 AM
#41
Lexus Fanatic
Not in the new one. Lol. But what difference does it make. Remember my thread about power button spacers? It got closed becuase people couldn’t take such a deep conversation. So Toyota has no spacers, Lexus does. But in that thread, people obviously didn’t care even though they were different.
Most people’s perceptions about Lexus are partly made because of similar perceptions about Toyota. Lexus only succeeds because of Toyota. It’s Kinda like ones perceptions of Coca-Cola, if you like Coke you will feel better about Sprite
Most people’s perceptions about Lexus are partly made because of similar perceptions about Toyota. Lexus only succeeds because of Toyota. It’s Kinda like ones perceptions of Coca-Cola, if you like Coke you will feel better about Sprite
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03-21-19, 08:07 AM
#42
Lexus Champion
Maybe the Corolla has LS power window switches....
I'm not sure when was the last time they were shared, though. My GS and my Highlander certainly do not have the same window switches. Not that I would care if they did, though.
I'm not sure when was the last time they were shared, though. My GS and my Highlander certainly do not have the same window switches. Not that I would care if they did, though.
03-21-19, 08:08 AM
#43
Lexus Fanatic
Not in the new one. Lol. But what difference does it make. Most people’s perceptions about Lexus are partly make because of similar perceptions about Toyota. Lexus only success because of Toyota. It’s Kinda like ones perceptions of Coca-Cola, if you like Coke you will feel better about Sprite
My analogy is when you buy a house, most people want a smaller house in a better neighborhood. Few people want a bigger house in a worse neighborhood. So for cars, same thing, smaller house, better neighborhood is what I would prefer. Not the other way around...
03-22-19, 05:56 PM
#44
Lexus Fanatic
And by the way...this isn't true. The window switches used in the Corolla and the LS may be of similar design, but they are not the same nor are the plastics used to make them the same, nor have they ever been. The LS uses a plastic with a metallic component and Toyota does not, for instance.
03-22-19, 11:19 PM
#45
Lexus Champion
Lol I still don't get you and these window switches! They are encased in gorgeous wood, what do you want them to be? All the Yamaha wood in an LS430 comes from the same tree.. LS430 has lots of wood 
. I would understand if it were the same steering wheel of a Corolla or something; this I don't get.
. I would understand if it were the same steering wheel of a Corolla or something; this I don't get.