The Five Most Inaccurate Automotive Stereotypes (in mmarshall’s opinion)
03-16-19, 07:44 AM
#16
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
I have in the past...and still shop with people who do.
I like (and dislike) a lot of automotive products...regardless of where they or their parts come from. But IMO it is important for Americans (and American companies) to support American plants.
I almost bought an AWD last-generation 335i. Extremely impressed with it on the test-drive...but the horror stories of unreliability, breakdowns from the defective fuel-pumps, and (sometimes) dealer-arrogance turned me off.
I owned an (almost 20 year old) Lexus that was excellently screwed together. They used different materials in those days.
Irrelevant. I drove Buicks in college. And I would probably have driven them a lot longer if the quality hadn't tanked for several decades after that.
4. you like american cars even if not completely american.
3. you'd never buy a bmw.
2. you owned a lexus and thought it was excellently 'screwed together'.
1. you now drive a buick and are a senior.
03-16-19, 07:49 AM
#17
Lexus Fanatic
Kind of contradicts the OPs own opinion.
What does QED mean?
I knew it was all bias when I saw and read the Toyota does not make well built cars and then the KIA and Hyundai plug, but then back to Toyota powertrains. The fact is, there is no stereotype that Toyota makes better built vehicles than all others. Regardless of whether Toyota cars are better built or not better built, the Toyota brand is the most valuable car brand in the world, up there with Apple, Coca-Cola and others.
What does QED mean?
I agree. The OP is "debunking" stereotypes without any facts or data. You don't debunk stereotypes with your own personal views of the situation.
If we want to publish statistics of American cars being built over seas, or demographic data of Buick and Lincoln customers, fine. Other than that, I don't understand the point here?
If we want to publish statistics of American cars being built over seas, or demographic data of Buick and Lincoln customers, fine. Other than that, I don't understand the point here?
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 03-16-19 at 07:57 AM.
03-16-19, 07:53 AM
#18
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03-16-19, 07:58 AM
#19
Lexus Fanatic
I have in the past...and still shop with people who do.
I like (and dislike) a lot of automotive products...regardless of where they or their parts come from. But IMO it is important for Americans (and American companies) to support American plants.
I almost bought an AWD last-generation 335i. Extremely impressed with it on the test-drive...but the horror stories of unreliability, breakdowns from the defective fuel-pumps, and (sometimes) dealer-arrogance turned me off.
I owned an (almost 20 year old) Lexus that was excellently screwed together. They used different materials in those days.
Irrelevant. I drove Buicks in college. And I would probably have driven them a lot longer if the quality hadn't tanked for several decades after that.
I like (and dislike) a lot of automotive products...regardless of where they or their parts come from. But IMO it is important for Americans (and American companies) to support American plants.
I almost bought an AWD last-generation 335i. Extremely impressed with it on the test-drive...but the horror stories of unreliability, breakdowns from the defective fuel-pumps, and (sometimes) dealer-arrogance turned me off.
I owned an (almost 20 year old) Lexus that was excellently screwed together. They used different materials in those days.
Irrelevant. I drove Buicks in college. And I would probably have driven them a lot longer if the quality hadn't tanked for several decades after that.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 03-16-19 at 08:03 AM.
03-16-19, 08:02 AM
#20
Lexus Fanatic
I truly don’t feel the argument of #4. Parts content is irrelevant and is just silly to dwell on.
Toyota makes the Tacoma in Texas and in Mexico. One is clearly US built, the other is Mexican built.
Toyota makes the Tacoma in Texas and in Mexico. One is clearly US built, the other is Mexican built.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 03-16-19 at 08:15 AM.
03-16-19, 08:30 AM
#22
Lexus Test Driver
Same with the inverse--many foreign makes are built in the US with 75%+ North American sourced parts. Most people just don't pay attention to that though.
Again--NOT a stereotype.
03-16-19, 11:12 AM
#24
Lexus Fanatic
#4 isn't even a "stereotype". It's just being uninformed, particularly now that the the window sticker states country of origin and % of US parts.
Same with the inverse--many foreign makes are built in the US with 75%+ North American sourced parts. Most people just don't pay attention to that though.
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Same with the inverse--many foreign makes are built in the US with 75%+ North American sourced parts. Most people just don't pay attention to that though.
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Last edited by Toys4RJill; 03-16-19 at 11:38 AM.
03-16-19, 12:52 PM
#25
Lexus Test Driver
Yes you are correct. For me, I think country of origin is important in that a buyer deserves to be aware of who is building a particular vehicle. I think what the OP tried to discuss was that the lines are blurred on what an makes an American brand vehicle. Would you agree?
03-19-19, 08:27 AM
#27
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03-19-19, 09:02 AM
#28
I've never seen a Young person driving a Buick. EVER. Especially a Buick Sedan. lol. Cadillac at least has the ATS-V and CTS-V, Their other Sedans, again, Old people. BMW drivers do not signal.
03-19-19, 09:07 AM
#29
Lexus Fanatic
03-19-19, 09:21 AM
#30
Lexus Fanatic
I once envied Saab owners....like I said in college during the worst snowstorms we cut classes and headed for VT to ski. My Volvo (264) would be all over the place even with 4 snows (it was ok at speed, but not launching etc.). Saabs would cut through the snow like hot butter wait a sec I got it backwards! They'd be seeming infallible.
A few years ago I toured a warehouse full of Saab parts. Apparently the law requires them to be kept, but the manager said nothing ever left the warehouse. I never see 900's on the road, those were my favorites...the SPG packaged ones..for those who have ever driven one, I loved the key on the floor and having to put it in R before taking the key out. I don't remember ever seeing an automatic--the way it should be!
A few years ago I toured a warehouse full of Saab parts. Apparently the law requires them to be kept, but the manager said nothing ever left the warehouse. I never see 900's on the road, those were my favorites...the SPG packaged ones..for those who have ever driven one, I loved the key on the floor and having to put it in R before taking the key out. I don't remember ever seeing an automatic--the way it should be!