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Old 03-08-19, 02:46 PM
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Default Next BMW 7 Series Could Ditch V8, V12 Engines



Like the dinosaurs before them, large, inefficient engines are going extinct. Most companies are moving to smaller four- and six-cylinder engines aided by battery power instead. And BMW is not immune; a new rumor says that the next 7 Series sedan could drop its V8 and V12 engines in place of electrification.

The newly minted 2020 7 Series, according to a report from BMWBlog, will be the last version with V8 and V12 options. The reworked 4.4-liter V8 in the 750i produces 523 horsepower (390 kilowatts) – 80 hp (60 kW) more than before – and the 6.6-liter V12-powered 760i produces 600 hp (447 kW). But the upcoming G70 7 Series won't be so powerful.

Like most new BMWs, the new 7 Series could use the same 3.0-liter inline-six (B58) from cars like the 2 Series and 3 Series. The only difference is that the 7 Series will have full electrification. In fact, it's reported that BMW will offer both a plug-in 7 Series and a mild-hybrid option with a variation of the same six-cylinder engine. But these won't be underpowered options like the current plug-in.

Combined output for the entry-level, hybrid-powered 7 Series will reportedly be 560 hp (420 kW) and 590 pound-feet (800 Newton-meters) of torque. That would give it more power than the current V8, and way more power than the newest plug-in, which only produces 389 hp (290 kW) combined.

Whatever the case, we won't see a new new BMW 7 Series for some time. The 2020 model debuted in January, and won't go on sale in the U.S. until April.
https://www.motor1.com/photo/3745258/2020-bmw-7-series/
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That is pathetic and sad news. Giant stupid looking kidney grills, gesture controls that make you look like a moron using them and are needlessly complicated and now dropping 2 great engines. Horrible decisions going on at BMW for the future.
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The 7 series is sooo rare around here. And the 2 times I saw them are the 740s.

So no witch hunt for dropping the V8s?
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v12 I understand, but damn even the V8, Lexus leading by example I guess
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Ford did it with the EcoBoost, they were berated
Lexus did it with the LS, they were lambasted
BMW will do it, hypocrites will rejoice
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"Good old days" are gone, actually have been for a while.

There are plenty of efficient V8s, for gods sake a Suburban gets 25mpg hwy.

As a car enthusiast it's pretty depressing.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
"Good old days" are gone, actually have been for a while.

There are plenty of efficient V8s, for gods sake a Suburban gets 25mpg hwy.

As a car enthusiast it's pretty depressing.
Absolutely, I was surprised when we got the current gen of Suburban as a loaner, and did 25 mpg and I left it on 4WD (didn't want to monkey around but kinda wanted to put it in 2WD and see if it got even better).

Personally I might be ok with the Nav L Black Label having the V6, since it's not a performance vehicle and does over 500 ft. lbs. but honestly 6 cyl doesn't cut it on a ultra high end vehicle like a BMW. What's next, a X7 with a 2.0L 4 with 300 HP? We can't simply go by numbers alone. 300 HP is so 2000 and late! (not that I have more than that lol)

edit p.s. was joking with my buddy this AM, I said the numbers just aren't working, I'm not exactly sure where I'm supposed to get an extra $1,900/mo. for the Nav L Black Label, I might call Dave Ramsey to ask!

edit p.s. on the new 7 and X7, I am all for the hood no longer having a straight edge across, but imho the kidneys are too large. I dunno if designers felt compelled to change things to compete with others or what. And if a BMW has 4 lights, lighting up on low beams, I think that is a weak design as well. Kind of like the US Flag. There are guidelines as to what size it should be, at your home, at a building, etc. You know how car dealers tend to have an oversized flag so that people see it? That is not keeping in respect with guidelines. But who does anymore, seems like judges don't even follow them.

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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Ford did it with the EcoBoost, they were berated
Lexus did it with the LS, they were lambasted
BMW will do it, hypocrites will rejoice
I did not know this. My bro texted me yesterday he heard his Raptor's exhaust (V6) is a true dual. I googled and sure enough, it is. Just because of what I like I found that impressive. Brakes, exhaust, real engines, real engineering, all things I like on cars...
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Originally Posted by Johnhav430
I did not know this. My bro texted me yesterday he heard his Raptor's exhaust (V6) is a true dual. I googled and sure enough, it is. Just because of what I like I found that impressive. Brakes, exhaust, real engines, real engineering, all things I like on cars...
I was referring to how Ford started the trend of downsizing V8 to turbo 6, Lexus has recently followed, and it's likely BMW and the lot will too. The trailblazers are called out like a witch hunt, but when it becomes the norm and the others follow suit, the hypocrisy is laughable.

Congrats on your brothers Raptor
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I got roasted a few years back on CL for saying days of v8 were numbered.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
I got roasted a few years back on CL for saying days of v8 were numbered.
GM has a new handcrafted 4.2 Blackwing coming. So who would of thought?
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill


GM has a new handcrafted 4.2 Blackwing coming. So who would of thought?
Very interested to see if this is going to be Northstar all over again.

Spend big bucks developing a new DOHC that blows up at 80k while their "regular" V8s go for 300k.
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