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Old 01-17-19, 05:21 PM
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I'm sure a good percentage of the 275 cars were snapped up by speculators and collectors leaving an even smaller number of sales to average Caddy buyers.
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Old 01-17-19, 05:43 PM
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the Corvette is manufactured at the GM Bowling Green Assembly. And also where the National Corvette Museum is located. The 'Blackwing' of 4.2Ls supposedly shares the same architecture as the rumored 5.5L unit readied for the upcoming C8.
yes. That would make sense.
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Old 01-17-19, 06:23 PM
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Awesome. Can't wait to hear more about this new DOHC V8. There is zero wrong with their pushrod V8s to begin with, so this oughtta be good. Wondering if this will be a Northstar situation all over again, though.

That facelifted CT-6 from the front looks absolutely amazing.
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Old 01-19-19, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill View Post
This is a special edition type of car. Hand crafted engine.
Hand crafted by machines????
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Old 01-19-19, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL View Post
Hand crafted by machines????
Hand-crafted engines, while unusual, are not rare. We saw them on Mercedes AMG products, 90s-vintage Mustang Cobras, and some versions of the Dodge/Chrysler Hemis.
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Old 01-19-19, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL View Post
Hand crafted by machines????
Some GM engines are hand built. Corvettes for sure. This new motor for the CT6v is hand built.
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Old 01-19-19, 04:01 PM
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Hand-crafted engines, while unusual, are not rare. We saw them on Mercedes AMG products, 90s-vintage Mustang Cobras, and some versions of the Dodge/Chrysler Hemis.
Lexus LFA V10 was hand built.
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hand built is the most bogus description... it simply means hand assembled... a person put the parts together, torqued them to specs, connected the cables and wires, etc.
this is as opposed to a machine doing it. the idea being that the hand assembled method is done with more 'care' to make the future owner feel special.
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Old 01-21-19, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna View Post
hand built is the most bogus description... it simply means hand assembled... a person put the parts together, torqued them to specs, connected the cables and wires, etc.
this is as opposed to a machine doing it. the idea being that the hand assembled method is done with more 'care' to make the future owner feel special.
Hand built, hand assembled both sound the same to me. Maybe we should just say handcrafted
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Old 01-21-19, 02:16 PM
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The real problem is probably not sales, but money. GM simply makes more money per unit with trucks and SUVs...particularly the large ones. They don't want to sell sedans...even if people are ready to by them.
Because the math probably isn't there to support them. They have to have enough buyers to overcome the loss in per-unit margin. And "people are ready to buy them" doesn't necessarily indicate that.

You really think GM is doing this just because they hate being a volume seller? That they're willing to lose money just to not sell as many cars?

Sedans are a dying breed. Fewer and fewer people are buying them because they don't offer the same utility that a CUV does. The only exceptions to this rule might be in luxury circles(such as CL) where people enjoy a well put together luxury sedan, and older buyers who don't like change.

Facts and market research are going to be more persuasive than anecdotal reasoning(ie, "I prefer a sedan, and I know lots of people who do, so clearly sedans are what GM should build.")




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Old 01-21-19, 03:12 PM
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You really think GM is doing this just because they hate being a volume seller? That they're willing to lose money just to not sell as many cars?
It's not just a question of "volume"selling or not. The bean-counters just aren't happy with the profit-margin on sedans, period. That would apply whether they sold a hundred or a million. Just look at what GM and Ford profits on the sale of every large Expedition, Navigator, Tahoe, Yukon, Suburban, Escalade, etc.... (up to five figures, in some cases), and right there is your answer. The big profits are in big trucks...though to s lesser extent in smaller SUVs/SUVs.

Sedans are a dying breed. Fewer and fewer people are buying them because they don't offer the same utility that a CUV does. The only exceptions to this rule might be in luxury circles (such as CL) where people enjoy a well put together luxury sedan, and older buyers who don't like change
Such as those of us who like LS460s, G90s, or Lacrosses?

Facts and market research are going to be more persuasive than anecdotal reasoning(ie, "I prefer a sedan, and I know lots of people who do, so clearly sedans are what GM should build.")
So-called "Facts" and "Market Research" are what brought GM and Chrysler to bankruptcy ten years ago. Let's see if history repeats itself....only this time, Ford may be involved.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall View Post
Hand-crafted engines, while unusual, are not rare. We saw them on Mercedes AMG products, 90s-vintage Mustang Cobras, and some versions of the Dodge/Chrysler Hemis.
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hand built is the most bogus description... it simply means hand assembled... a person put the parts together, torqued them to specs, connected the cables and wires, etc.
this is as opposed to a machine doing it. the idea being that the hand assembled method is done with more 'care' to make the future owner feel special.
I don't know, maybe it is the part that a human is checking everything on top of a machine is reassuring. But, I do appreciate a hand assembled engine, whether it is better or not, I don't know?
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL View Post
I don't know, maybe it is the part that a human is checking everything on top of a machine is reassuring. But, I do appreciate a hand assembled engine, whether it is better or not, I don't know?
On a hand-produced engine, there is usually (but not always) a signature somewhere on it, usually on a small plaque, as with Mercedes AMG powerplants. The person's name on the plaque (and, of course, the company itself) is presumably the one who is responsible for any problem in the engine that can be traced to sloppy assembly. That would include something like head-bolts not torqued properly, slipping or loose fan-belts, fluid-leaks from poorly-fitted gaskets/seals, etc....as opposed to designed-in defects from the engineers that the assembler had no control over.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall View Post
On a hand-produced engine, there is usually (but not always) a signature somewhere on it, usually on a small plaque, as with Mercedes AMG powerplants. The person's name on the plaque (and, of course, the company itself) is presumably the one who is responsible for any problem in the engine that can be traced to sloppy assembly. That would include something like head-bolts not torqued properly, slipping or loose fan-belts, fluid-l leaks from poorly-fitted gaskets/seals, etc....as opposed to designed-in defects from the engineers that the assembler had no control over.
This reminds me of some video from Top Gear where the same person supposedly "hand-built" 10 thousand AMG engines in a year.
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