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Old 01-16-19, 08:23 PM
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F150 Limited starts at 67k already, thats where most Ram Limited max out. F150 Limited has the raptor engine now so it definitely has a stronger engine. But the interior is nowhere near as nice.

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The package swaps chrome bumpers, door handles and grille surround for body color versions. Inside, Sport Package Ram HDs get a black interior with piano black trim pieces. To sweeten the deal, parking assist sensors are standard with the package.

To get the Sport Package, you'll have to get your Ram HD with at least the Big Horn trim. Lone Star and Laramie trims also offer the package. Within those trims, the Sport Package is available with any cab or engine combination. Pricing isn't out yet.
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Best looking, driving, and feeling HD truck on the market, hands down.
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The nicest face of any pickup. Very impressive work on their part.
Prices are out of control.
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
F150 Limited starts at 67k already, thats where most Ram Limited max out. F150 Limited has the raptor engine now so it definitely has a stronger engine. But the interior is nowhere near as nice.
i didn’t believe you about f150 limited starting at 67k but sure enough you are right...

next trim below, platinum is over $12k less and certainly not sure you’re getting 12 large more ‘stuff’ on the limited. Can’t believe ‘platinum’ doesn’t have safety features of a corolla.
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The nicest face of any pickup.
that’s like saying most attractive of the ugly sisters...

Prices are out of control.
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
Prices are out of control.
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truth!
Come on, though...what are you guys always saying? Prices are set by the market...or, at least, what people are willing to pay.

Having said that, though, I recently static-reviewed a new Ford Ranger Lariat 4X4, and, IMO, I thought it was probably overpriced for what you got. Pickup prices have indeed skyrocketed lately....but people are apparantly still scooping them up.


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can buy 67k Ram Limited 4x4 etorque for 10k off just looking online. Probably can squeeze 13k with negotiating/timing. What vehicle is like a Ram Limited for 54k? A decent luxury crossover will cost that much and has nowhere near the utility, then a sedan doesnt even come close. You can even get 10k off Ram Bighorns that cost 44k, what car/crossover can do that for $34k?

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Come on, though...what are you guys always saying? Prices are set by the market...or, at least, what people are willing to pay.

(Mirroring your question and comment....) If prices are set by the market, and people are routinely getting $10k off sticker for these big rigs, then they should be priced $10k less.

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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
(Mirroring your question and comment....) If prices are set by the market, and people are routinely getting $10k off sticker for these big rigs, then they should be priced $10k less.

What does it matter to your bank account? It pays the same, either way, whether you pay full price on a 40K truck or get 10K off, in discounts or incentives, on a 50K truck. Same math. Whether the factory or the dealership, though, actually profits (and how much) depends on several factors, but to the customer itself (and the general truck market), I don't see where it makes any difference.

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I think it comes down to customer’s (for the lack of better description) ego. Would you rather drive a $50k vehicle that you purchased for $40k, or a $40k vehicle purchased for the same amount? I’m pretty sure most buyers would choose the former (if said vehicles were the same).
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
What does it matter to your bank account? It pays the same, either way, whether you pay full price on a 40K truck or get 10K off, in discounts or incentives, on a 50K truck. Same math. Whether the factory or the dealership, though, actually profits 9and how much) depends on several factors, but to the customer itself (and the general truck market), I don't see where it makes any difference.

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According to the manufacturer's own words and actions, it does make a difference. Several times over the last 35 years, manufacturers have adjusted sticker prices to better align with true transaction prices. A quick google search will bring up several examples of this has happening. So apparently it does matter.
Not to mention, many potential customers get scared off when shopping around online or looking at a window sticker- seeing a vehicle list for $10k more than they realize they actually have to pay may have them walking away before any sales manager can tell them about incentives.
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
According to the manufacturer's own words and actions, it does make a difference. Several times over the last 35 years, manufacturers have adjusted sticker prices to better align with true transaction prices. A quick google search will bring up several examples of this has happening. So apparently it does matter.
I was referring more to you (or me), as a private auto-buyer, than how it affects the actual manufacturer. You, as a buyer, will pay the same amount either way, but, yes, as you point out, how much the actual factory or dealership makes on the deal depends on a number of factors.
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The reason they do it is the tax loophole.

If the MSRP is 50k, and they sell it for 40k, they can list it as a "loss" on their books, even though wholesale was 25-30k.
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Originally Posted by ArmyofOne
The reason they do it is the tax loophole.

If the MSRP is 50k, and they sell it for 40k, they can list it as a "loss" on their books, even though wholesale was 25-30k.
I don’t think that loss idea is true for one, and for another, a 50k msrp truck has a 100% dealer markup on 25k? No chance...
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