mmarshall

Was that a typo....or intended?

SW17LS

mmarshall

Perhaps so, but I wasn't aware of that. Its most serious problem that I remember (and its Mercury Mountaineer twin) was the tire-failure/roll-over problem with the older Firestone Wilderness tires (at low-PSIs and high stress on them) and the ancient Twin-I-Beam front suspension.

bitkahuna

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Hoovey689

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Two license plates that I remember vividly that I have seen on Explorers have been EXPLODN and another was EXPLORN.

As a bonus, I once saw a Dodge Durango with DODGTHS lol

SW17LS

its just one of those car guy digs...

Explorers of that era also had common transmission failures, it was totally normal to need a new or rebuilt trans before 70K miles. Mine had it done about 65k miles and it lasted until the truck was donated at 230,000 miles.

FrankReynoldsCPA

Can confirm, I've heard Exploder used many many times

-J-P-L-

Overall it's a nice evolution but is it enough for an all new design of the best selling 3-row? I think Ford just did the minimal effort to get the job done. IMO not an effort to earn best seller status but kind of resting on its laurels. A 2020 interior that isn't as good as some 3-4-year old competitors even though its much better than the disgraceful outgoing model. My biggest question is why are the taillights almost identical to the outgoing model? That makes no sense. From the rear a lot of people are going to think it's the old model.

SW17LS

You haven't actually even seen the car yet, just done up in police garb. Wait until you see the actual vehicle in consumer form, see the interior, etc.

Nothing wrong with an evolutionary design. I think the outgoing car is still out handsome.

-J-P-L-

Did you miss all the other pics? Clear interior shots shown. All exterior details shown with light camo. You can see every design element.

SW17LS

I've seen them, but cars look very different in lightly camo'ed spy shots and spy shots of the interior through glass. Many, many times I have seen spy shots of cars and been unimpressed and then when the actual car was here I felt differently.

pbm317

Debuted tonight! I should be able to go through it on Monday at the Detroit Show.

Hoovey689

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Sexy exterior! Love the family reunion photo!

Ford is going to sell a massive amount of these.

mmarshall

Nothing new at that. They always have.

With the possible exception of the Jeep Wagoneer, the Ford Explorer, in the early 1990s, started the whole concept of mass-produced family-oriented SUVs....the Jeep Grand Cherokee followed a couple of years later. The Chevy Suburban had been in production since 1936, but never sold to families in large numbers until recent decades.

-J-P-L-

Notice there's a a much larger portrait screen here vs the smaller landscape screen on the spy shots. I wonder if there's variance among the trims or did Ford change this during testing.