What would be considered the most reliable used Lexus made?
#61
The 2015 model year ES was still built in Japan. Toyota started to build (facelifted) ES models in Kentucky for the 2016 model year. It is only the second Lexus model built outside Japan.
The RX was the first Lexus model to be built outside of Japan. It started production in Cambridge, Ontario, Canada in September 2003.
The RX was the first Lexus model to be built outside of Japan. It started production in Cambridge, Ontario, Canada in September 2003.
#62
Lexus Fanatic
Most hybrids are built in Japan still.
#63
Pole Position
I'm resurrecting this old thread as I was disappointed to discover today that the 2021 ES 300h is made in Kentucky. I went to the dealer looking for an end-of-year deal. They had an overstock of ES's to pick from, and thus, were offering steep discounts. However, I would have to hold my nose to close a deal on one, or at least say "hail Mary" multiple times before signing!
I would be interested in hearing from Kentucky ES owners about their experiences with the quality of their cars. I want to replace my wife's 2011 ES 350, which has had rock-solid reliability. The '97 Avalon she had before the ES was built in Kentucky, and it was nowhere near as reliable as her Japanese-built ES.
I would be interested in hearing from Kentucky ES owners about their experiences with the quality of their cars. I want to replace my wife's 2011 ES 350, which has had rock-solid reliability. The '97 Avalon she had before the ES was built in Kentucky, and it was nowhere near as reliable as her Japanese-built ES.
#64
Lexus Champion
I'm resurrecting this old thread as I was disappointed to discover today that the 2021 ES 300h is made in Kentucky. I went to the dealer looking for an end-of-year deal. They had an overstock of ES's to pick from, and thus, were offering steep discounts. However, I would have to hold my nose to close a deal on one, or at least say "hail Mary" multiple times before signing!
I would be interested in hearing from Kentucky ES owners about their experiences with the quality of their cars. I want to replace my wife's 2011 ES 350, which has had rock-solid reliability. The '97 Avalon she had before the ES was built in Kentucky, and it was nowhere near as reliable as her Japanese-built ES.
I would be interested in hearing from Kentucky ES owners about their experiences with the quality of their cars. I want to replace my wife's 2011 ES 350, which has had rock-solid reliability. The '97 Avalon she had before the ES was built in Kentucky, and it was nowhere near as reliable as her Japanese-built ES.
#65
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#66
Lexus Fanatic
I'm resurrecting this old thread as I was disappointed to discover today that the 2021 ES 300h is made in Kentucky. I went to the dealer looking for an end-of-year deal. They had an overstock of ES's to pick from, and thus, were offering steep discounts. However, I would have to hold my nose to close a deal on one, or at least say "hail Mary" multiple times before signing!
I would be interested in hearing from Kentucky ES owners about their experiences with the quality of their cars. I want to replace my wife's 2011 ES 350, which has had rock-solid reliability. The '97 Avalon she had before the ES was built in Kentucky, and it was nowhere near as reliable as her Japanese-built ES.
I would be interested in hearing from Kentucky ES owners about their experiences with the quality of their cars. I want to replace my wife's 2011 ES 350, which has had rock-solid reliability. The '97 Avalon she had before the ES was built in Kentucky, and it was nowhere near as reliable as her Japanese-built ES.
What country a vehicle is made has almost no bearing on reliability. It is the design of the vehicle, tolerances/quality in the design, using solid mechanicals that make pretty much all the difference. When was the last time you heard of a car having a failure or issue simply because something wasn't screwed in enough or aligned enough, it is very easy to fix something that was not screwed in enough or snapped in fully. The LS460 is made in the Tahara Plant Japan and is basically the most unreliable Lexus with several trouble spots, it has many more issues then Camry's, Accords, Acura's built in the US.
#67
Lexus Fanatic
What country a vehicle is made has almost no bearing on reliability. It is the design of the vehicle, tolerances/quality in the design, using solid mechanicals that make pretty much all the difference. When was the last time you heard of a car having a failure or issue simply because something wasn't screwed in enough or aligned enough, it is very easy to fix something that was not screwed in enough or snapped in fully. The LS460 is made in the Tahara Plant Japan and is basically the most unreliable Lexus with several trouble spots, it has many more issues then Camry's, Accords, Acura's built in the US.
#68
Lexus Fanatic
Comparing the LS460 to Camry’s and Accords made in the US and inferring that there is no reliability difference because of country makes no sense because the LS460 is dramatically more complex than those cars and has far more to go wrong. Apples and bowling *****.
In order to make that claim you’d have to look at similar cars made in Japan vs the US. I would agree there’s no reliability difference. Any difference would be in build quality.
In order to make that claim you’d have to look at similar cars made in Japan vs the US. I would agree there’s no reliability difference. Any difference would be in build quality.
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#69
Lexus Fanatic
Comparing the LS460 to Camry’s and Accords made in the US and inferring that there is no reliability difference because of country makes no sense because the LS460 is dramatically more complex than those cars and has far more to go wrong. Apples and bowling *****.
In order to make that claim you’d have to look at similar cars made in Japan vs the US. I would agree there’s no reliability difference. Any difference would be in build quality.
In order to make that claim you’d have to look at similar cars made in Japan vs the US. I would agree there’s no reliability difference. Any difference would be in build quality.
#70
Lexus Fanatic
Comparing the LS460 to Camry’s and Accords made in the US and inferring that there is no reliability difference because of country makes no sense because the LS460 is dramatically more complex than those cars and has far more to go wrong. Apples and bowling *****.
In order to make that claim you’d have to look at similar cars made in Japan vs the US. I would agree there’s no reliability difference. Any difference would be in build quality.
In order to make that claim you’d have to look at similar cars made in Japan vs the US. I would agree there’s no reliability difference. Any difference would be in build quality.
As far as I know, all Lexus tech or chassis parts Are designed in Japan
#72
Lexus Test Driver
I'm resurrecting this old thread as I was disappointed to discover today that the 2021 ES 300h is made in Kentucky. I went to the dealer looking for an end-of-year deal. They had an overstock of ES's to pick from, and thus, were offering steep discounts. However, I would have to hold my nose to close a deal on one, or at least say "hail Mary" multiple times before signing!
I would be interested in hearing from Kentucky ES owners about their experiences with the quality of their cars. I want to replace my wife's 2011 ES 350, which has had rock-solid reliability. The '97 Avalon she had before the ES was built in Kentucky, and it was nowhere near as reliable as her Japanese-built ES.
I would be interested in hearing from Kentucky ES owners about their experiences with the quality of their cars. I want to replace my wife's 2011 ES 350, which has had rock-solid reliability. The '97 Avalon she had before the ES was built in Kentucky, and it was nowhere near as reliable as her Japanese-built ES.
#73
Pole Position
I agree mostly, however, Lexus quality, including the ES, is slipping, based on my research. That said, they're still better than most!
#74
Pole Position
Again, I mostly agree, but I also believe Toyota's great reliability is partly due to the quality of their parts. Their rubber formulations and metallurgy is top-notch! That's why I mostly buy OEM unless I've been burned by a particular OEM part.
#75
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