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JDR76 10-11-18 03:21 PM

Stinger as Possible GS350 Replacement
 
Hey guys and gals. Today I finally took the time to spend some time at the Kia dealership with the Stinger. My GS lease is coming up and I am starting to look at my options, though I am having a terrible time coming up with other choices to consider (hate the E Class, not taken by the 5 Series, don't like Audi, etc.).

My license tabs are due on the GS in December ($700 or so) and I don't want to pay those then turn around and turn in the car a few months later, so I am thinking the time to replace the car is near.

I drove a 2018 Stinger GT2 AWD today. Red with black interior. I get the hype about this car...

The good:

- The styling is beautiful to my eyes. Very low, wide, and aggressive.
- The power. Great torque at any speed.
- The features and technology. I'd be hard pressed to name one thing that it didn't have. Seriously impressive.
- The interior was made of good quality materials and seemed roughly comparable in size to my GS. Should work for my family of 4 (kids are 4 and 7 but the Highlander does most family duty).
- The handling was fantastic.
- Real cooled seats!!
- Good cargo room.
- Great exhaust note.

The not so good:

- A lot more noisy and stiff than I am used to. Worried it will get tiring over time.
- After being spoiled by my GS 12.3" display, the 8" unit in the Stinger seemed cheap, not to mention it's a touch screen, and I hate touch screens.
- The combination of black leather, black headliner, high belt line, and dark tint made the interior pretty dark.

The deals out there are great right now. Before negotiations, current rebates and such knocked the price down from $53k to $46.5k.

So it was a fun car and probably my current top choice for my GS replacement. It'll be sad not to have a Lexus in the garage (used to have two), but that's life. I'll try to decide in the next few weeks.

JDR76 10-11-18 03:22 PM

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RNM GS3 10-11-18 03:25 PM

You can get great lease deal on 540i.
Much better overall package than the Kia imo.

Genesis G80 are nice also but lease programs are not good last time i looked.

JDR76 10-11-18 03:28 PM

The 540i does have some great deals, no doubt. I've loved the 5 series for years but not that excited by them lately. Not really sure why.

I like the looks of the G80, but they weigh nearly as much as my Highlander... I want something with sportier handling than that.

RNM GS3 10-11-18 03:32 PM

Im also not crazy about how new 5er looks. My F10 535i was perfect, this new one has not grown on me....
I think the G80 looks better.

JDR76 10-11-18 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by RNM GS3 (Post 10330803)
Im also not crazy about how new 5er looks. My F10 535i was perfect, this new one has not grown on me....
I think the G80 looks better.

The F10 was great! Loved those.

Maybe I will go take a drive in a G80, but I fear it’ll be softer than what I’m looking for.

LexBob2 10-11-18 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by JDR76 (Post 10330806)


The F10 was great! Loved those.

Maybe I will go take a drive in a G80, but I fear it’ll be softer than what I’m looking for.

There is a G80 Sport and it sounds like it's somewhat similar to the Stinger in terms of performance, maybe a little more luxury oriented. According to a Genesis forum I visit now and then Genesis inventories are kind of limited until they get their dealerships in place and up and running.

tex2670 10-11-18 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by JDR76 (Post 10330784)
Hey guys and gals. Today I finally took the time to spend some time at the Kia dealership with the Stinger. My GS lease is coming up and I am starting to look at my options, though I am having a terrible time coming up with other choices to consider (hate the E Class, not taken by the 5 Series, don't like Audi, etc.).

My license tabs are due on the GS in December ($700 or so) and I don't want to pay those then turn around and turn in the car a few months later, so I am thinking the time to replace the car is near.

I drove a 2018 Stinger GT2 AWD today. Red with black interior. I get the hype about this car...

The good:

- The styling is beautiful to my eyes. Very low, wide, and aggressive.
- The power. Great torque at any speed.
- The features and technology. I'd be hard pressed to name one thing that it didn't have. Seriously impressive.
- The interior was made of good quality materials and seemed roughly comparable in size to my GS. Should work for my family of 4 (kids are 4 and 7 but the Highlander does most family duty).
- The handling was fantastic.
- Real cooled seats!!
- Good cargo room.
- Great exhaust note.

The not so good:

- A lot more noisy and stiff than I am used to. Worried it will get tiring over time.
- After being spoiled by my GS 12.3" display, the 8" unit in the Stinger seemed cheap, not to mention it's a touch screen, and I hate touch screens.
- The combination of black leather, black headliner, high belt line, and dark tint made the interior pretty dark.

The deals out there are great right now. Before negotiations, current rebates and such knocked the price down from $53k to $46.5k.

So it was a fun car and probably my current top choice for my GS replacement. It'll be sad not to have a Lexus in the garage (used to have two), but that's life. I'll try to decide in the next few weeks.

I've never driven one, but I sat in one at the Philadelphia Auto Show. I would think one of the bigger issues is that the interior would definitely be a step down from the GS (the sea of black aside). I suppose you could forego the hatch, and also consider the Genesis G70?

JDR76 10-11-18 04:53 PM

I haven’t sat in the G70 yet but it’s smaller than the Stinger and I just can’t go smaller, especially in the back seat.

mmarshall 10-11-18 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by JDR76 (Post 10330784)
Hey guys and gals. Today I finally took the time to spend some time at the Kia dealership with the Stinger. My GS lease is coming up and I am starting to look at my options, though I am having a terrible time coming up with other choices to consider (hate the E Class, not taken by the 5 Series, don't like Audi, etc.).

My license tabs are due on the GS in December ($700 or so) and I don't want to pay those then turn around and turn in the car a few months later, so I am thinking the time to replace the car is near.

You might want to PM corradoMR2 and get his take.....he owns one. Also, I did a full-review on a turbo-four version some time ago, if it will help any.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...a-stinger.html




- The interior was made of good quality materials
IMO it's hard to beat the material quality of Korean-designed vehicles today. They are, essentially, providing the type of quality today that we saw from Honda and Acura back in the 1980s, when they led the industry in material quality.


- A lot more noisy and stiff than I am used to. Worried it will get tiring over time.
That's why I drive a Lacrosse...I don't like noisy, stiff cars, either.


So it was a fun car and probably my current top choice for my GS replacement. It'll be sad not to have a Lexus in the garage (used to have two), but that's life. I'll try to decide in the next few weeks.
Seriously, if you like the car, go for it, and don't worry about whether it has an "L" on the grille or not. Probably half of the people here in Car Chat (even moderators) do not drive Lexus products.

ArmyofOne 10-11-18 05:56 PM

I don't know. I am not a brand snob by any means, but at the end of the day, you will still own a $50,000 KIA. That just sounds weird. I know the kia and hyundai lineups have come a long way since the 90's, but at the end of the day, its still a Kia. Kind of like driving a Neon SRT-4 is still...driving a neon.

mmarshall 10-11-18 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by ArmyofOne (Post 10330896)
I don't know. I am not a brand snob by any means, but at the end of the day, you will still own a $50,000 KIA.


I'm not quite sure I follow. :uh: If we're going to talk about nameplates, how is that any different from a 50-60K F-150 King Ranch or Ram 1500 Longhorn/Southfork? Either way, you still are paying that kind of money for a Ford or a Dodge (which the Ram nameplate split off from). The Dodge Hellcat and Demon muscle-cars can also run that much, or more. So......why would it be any different for a Kia?

Sulu 10-11-18 06:57 PM

Have you given up on buying out the lease and keeping your GS?


Originally Posted by JDR76 (Post 10330784)
The not so good:

- A lot more noisy and stiff than I am used to. Worried it will get tiring over time.

I would find the refined interior and ride hard to give up.


Originally Posted by JDR76 (Post 10330784)
- After being spoiled by my GS 12.3" display, the 8" unit in the Stinger seemed cheap, not to mention it's a touch screen, and I hate touch screens.

Your Highlander's central screen is smaller than the GS' screen and it is also a touchscreen. I guess the question is if you could get used to it if you had 2 similar screens in your driveway.


Originally Posted by JDR76 (Post 10330784)
- The combination of black leather, black headliner, high belt line, and dark tint made the interior pretty dark.

Are there no other colour choices? These (all-black interior plus high beltline) would personally be deal-breakers for me, but could you get used to it?

JDR76 10-11-18 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by ArmyofOne (Post 10330896)
I don't know. I am not a brand snob by any means, but at the end of the day, you will still own a $50,000 KIA. That just sounds weird. I know the kia and hyundai lineups have come a long way since the 90's, but at the end of the day, its still a Kia. Kind of like driving a Neon SRT-4 is still...driving a neon.

Yeah, I don't really care about that. I'm fine with the Kia badge.


Originally Posted by Sulu (Post 10330943)
Have you given up on buying out the lease and keeping your GS?

I wouldn't actually be against this, but I am severely upside down on it, so my buyout is close to $35k and the blue book is around $29k. It's just not a smart decision, though otherwise I'd be fine with this approach.


I would find the refined interior and ride hard to give up.
The ride may indeed be hard to lose, but there are clear tradeoffs. The Kia interior was fine for me, and had a ton of tech my GS does not have. Lots to think about.


Your Highlander's central screen is smaller than the GS' screen and it is also a touchscreen. I guess the question is if you could get used to it if you had 2 similar screens in your driveway.
Not a deal breaker by any means, but you touched on the one thing I do not like about my Highlander.


Are there no other colour choices? These (all-black interior plus high beltline) would personally be deal-breakers for me, but could you get used to it?
They do have the red interior, but I like the red exterior so that is limited to the black interior. My GS interior is black with a black headliner, and it bothered me at first but then I got over it. I suspect I'd adjust to the Stinger as well.

Thanks for the comments, everyone.

bitkahuna 10-11-18 09:27 PM

About your not so good, test drive a g90. :D


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