Ford cancels Focus Active import plans due to China tariffs
09-05-18, 02:57 PM
#91
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09-05-18, 03:04 PM
#92
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09-05-18, 03:12 PM
#93
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That wasn't what I was ultimately getting at, though. The problem is not that wages in auto plants are too high here in the U.S....it is that they are too low in a number of countries overseas. Part of that, of course, is beyond our control, but the tariffs have at least some ability to make it more difficult to produce goods overseas and sell them here.
09-05-18, 04:26 PM
#95
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That wasn't what I was ultimately getting at, though. The problem is not that wages in auto plants are too high here in the U.S....it is that they are too low in a number of countries overseas. Part of that, of course, is beyond our control, but the tariffs have at least some ability to make it more difficult to produce goods overseas and sell them here.
09-05-18, 04:57 PM
#96
prices wont go up since tariffs wont be applied... it is just Trump negotiating, and regardless of his style that makes everyone an enemy, with China for instance it already brought some good things for rest of the world... like that tariff drop from 25% to 15% and changes to the JV rules and local 50% ownership.
09-05-18, 05:18 PM
#97
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If it will help get more people get back to work in American factories, I'm willing to pay a little more...I'm not selfish. Too many people have been hurt, right here at home, BECAUSE jobs have been farmed out overseas. Like Trump has been telling us for the last three years, it's time to put this country first.
09-05-18, 05:43 PM
#98
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If it will help get more people get back to work in American factories, I'm willing to pay a little more...I'm not selfish. Too many people have been hurt, right here at home, BECAUSE jobs have been farmed out overseas. Like Trump has been telling us for the last three years, it's time to put this country first.
09-05-18, 05:48 PM
#99
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That wasn't what I was ultimately getting at, though. The problem is not that wages in auto plants are too high here in the U.S....it is that they are too low in a number of countries overseas. Part of that, of course, is beyond our control, but the tariffs have at least some ability to make it more difficult to produce goods overseas and sell them here.
09-05-18, 06:43 PM
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prices wont go up since tariffs wont be applied... it is just Trump negotiating, and regardless of his style that makes everyone an enemy, with China for instance it already brought some good things for rest of the world... like that tariff drop from 25% to 15% and changes to the JV rules and local 50% ownership.
at least someone here gets the long game. 
09-06-18, 06:00 AM
#101
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please explain why manufacturers who are NOT saddled with UAW baggage can easily build a profitable full line of vehicles in the US, while the American manufacturers who DO have UAW contracts can largely only afford to produce high-margin vehicles here. Why are low foreign wages a problem for Ford, but not for Toyota?
I already have.....in previous posts.
09-06-18, 06:49 AM
#102
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You haven't come even remotely close. For reference, here are the only two of your posts from this thread that even mention the issue:
Neither comes anywhere near answering the question of why Toyota, Hyundai, Honda, etc can profitably build huge swaths of their US lineup in the states, but Ford can't. Obviously the fact that Ford's average labor rate is $60 an hour, or $125k/year--more than my fully loaded cost (including benefits) for highly-skilled, well-educated network engineers with 20+ years of experience--has nothing to do with it. 
No. UAW contracts are not what makes jobs go overseas. It is that wages and benefits are simply too low in some other countries...in some cases, almost slave labor. The recent tariffs cannot necessarily force other countries to raise the wages, but they CAN make it more expensive for American manufacturers to take advantage of the mistreatment of labor overseas. Trump did exactly the right thing.
09-06-18, 07:00 AM
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09-06-18, 07:03 AM
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