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Depends on visibility and road conditions. Though it's admittedly been some time ago, I've seen conditions, particularly on Pennsylvania Interstates, before they got enough salt down, where 30 or 35 MPH would be pushing it. Down in Florida, where you live, you probably almost never have to deal with true winter conditions.Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Is someone who drives 10 UNDER the speed limit on the highway regardless of other cars a good driver?
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A good driver here would be someone who can get to their destination the quickest without hurting themselves and others.
I’ll get to my destination far quicker than you because I drive the 85th percentile speed vs you blindly following the speed limit, and I’ll Be as safe or safer than you because studies overwhelmingly show that speed to be the safest speed. So, by your definition I guess I’m a better driver than you.Originally Posted by theory815
Public Road Driving:A good driver here would be someone who can get to their destination the quickest without hurting themselves and others.
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Took the New Jersey Turnpike north again yesterday, and very little traffic due to holiday. With a 65 mph speed limit, I would estimate the avg. speed to be 80. The mode if you will.
Of course many vehicles were going faster. To be realistic, a woman of retirement age in a Subaru followed us from the on ramp at exit 7, and 80 was too slow for her (we accelerated to that speed and then did not go faster). It's our Independence Day, no need for such theatrics and drama changing lanes and passing us as if we were granny driving! lol
Somehow this thread seems to have morphed into something whereby if you go 5-10 mph over, you are immoral, and a danger lol And I get it, nobody should be forced to speed. My mom will not. She says I don't care if people are upset, I follow the speed limit. But she doesn't hog the left lane either. Do what makes you comfortable within reason...
Of course many vehicles were going faster. To be realistic, a woman of retirement age in a Subaru followed us from the on ramp at exit 7, and 80 was too slow for her (we accelerated to that speed and then did not go faster). It's our Independence Day, no need for such theatrics and drama changing lanes and passing us as if we were granny driving! lol
Somehow this thread seems to have morphed into something whereby if you go 5-10 mph over, you are immoral, and a danger lol And I get it, nobody should be forced to speed. My mom will not. She says I don't care if people are upset, I follow the speed limit. But she doesn't hog the left lane either. Do what makes you comfortable within reason...
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This is another topic in itself, has anyone been able to explain this phenomenon? I distinctly remember my cousin's dad (we don't say uncle as he beat my cousin and abandoned the family) driving and when people did this, he would yell and scream profanities at the driver who did that. I experience this all the time--I'll be coming up fast on a car with my cruise at about 73 mph, move out to pass, accelerate, look at my speedo and it's now 80, and I haven't overtaken the vehicle. Sometimes I sheepishly move back behind them--most of the time, they now continue at 80. Sometimes, they slow back down, and this process repeats. Anybody know why? Originally Posted by 05ls430518
Something tells me the OP is the kind of guy that accelerates when you try to pass him lol.

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People just don’t want to get along. Don’t want to follow rules. They have a bad day. Speed limits etc If people just tried to follow, for the most part everything works out. Highways are perfectly safe if you follow the speed limits, share the road, and try to respect one another Originally Posted by Johnhav430
This is another topic in itself, has anyone been able to explain this phenomenon? I distinctly remember my cousin's dad (we don't say uncle as he beat my cousin and abandoned the family) driving and when people did this, he would yell and scream profanities at the driver who did that. I experience this all the time--I'll be coming up fast on a car with my cruise at about 73 mph, move out to pass, accelerate, look at my speedo and it's now 80, and I haven't overtaken the vehicle. Sometimes I sheepishly move back behind them--most of the time, they now continue at 80. Sometimes, they slow back down, and this process repeats. Anybody know why?
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Its self righteousness. It’s their way of trying to police the person going faster than them.Originally Posted by Johnhav430
This is another topic in itself, has anyone been able to explain this phenomenon? I distinctly remember my cousin's dad (we don't say uncle as he beat my cousin and abandoned the family) driving and when people did this, he would yell and scream profanities at the driver who did that. I experience this all the time--I'll be coming up fast on a car with my cruise at about 73 mph, move out to pass, accelerate, look at my speedo and it's now 80, and I haven't overtaken the vehicle. Sometimes I sheepishly move back behind them--most of the time, they now continue at 80. Sometimes, they slow back down, and this process repeats. Anybody know why?
One of the benefits of having a fast car. A little burst of
speed leaves them impotent, ashamed and behind me

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People just don’t want to get along. Don’t want to follow rules. They have a bad day. Speed limits etc If people just tried to follow, for the most part everything works out. Highways are perfectly safe if you follow the speed limits, share the road, and try to respect one another
I may be over analyzing, but I wonder if there is some knee jerk reaction to a car getting closer, i.e. passing? Because this happened on the NJ Tpk yesterday. A Mercedes was going slow, maybe 65 mph, and we are doing about 80 mph, so I got out to pass, now I cannot pass the Mercedes? There is no question the driver was elderly, so I almost think he wouldn't be playing games? Even my wife made a comment, did you do something to him? So I backed off, moved into the middle lane, and guess what? He moves back over and is at 65 mph again. The next time I said the heck with him I'm passing him and just did it. But again, his car must have accelerated to about 80 so, so I had to go even faster. I know, if I only had a dash cam it would be more visual as opposed to my words describing it.Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
People just don’t want to get along. Don’t want to follow rules. They have a bad day. Speed limits etc If people just tried to follow, for the most part everything works out. Highways are perfectly safe if you follow the speed limits, share the road, and try to respect one another
The net net is I would like to set my cruise and just maintain my speed. Traffic was really light yesterday so the elderly man behaved badly imho.
As far as sharing the road, this was the case when I was in Scandinavia in the 90's. Heck, when they get off a plane, it's orderly, row by row, instead of everyone rushing to the overheads then standing in the aisle asap...
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You might be over analyzing. lol. What was the speed limit that you were doing 80 in?Originally Posted by Johnhav430
I may be over analyzing, but I wonder if there is some knee jerk reaction to a car getting closer, i.e. passing? Because this happened on the NJ Tpk yesterday. A Mercedes was going slow, maybe 65 mph, and we are doing about 80 mph, so I got out to pass, now I cannot pass the Mercedea
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One of the benefits of having a fast car. A little burst of speed leaves them impotent, ashamed and behind me 

Under the wrong conditions of doing that, though, you could also wind up with someone else behind you:


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In NJ even old people are childish jerks. I can say that because my wife is from NJ lol
seriously, if I never set foot in the state of NJ again that’d be awesome lol
seriously, if I never set foot in the state of NJ again that’d be awesome lol
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I’m pretty careful. Originally Posted by mmarshall
Under the wrong conditions of doing that, though, you could also wind up with someone else behind you: 
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Sure it does. If you give everyone else lower expectations only to shatter them with how awesome you are, you just seem even more awesome. Originally Posted by theory816
Meh I find being humble here doesn't work. People don't know until they know.

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The cameras are very well marked, they aren't hidden. For the most part I am able to avoid them, however I drive a lot and I'm often on the hurry someplace, on the phone, whatever and I miss one or two a year and get a photo ticket.
The tickets are $40...its not the end of the world.
And, they aren't put there for our safety, they're put there to make money. I've had members of our local governments tell me that to my face. Thats why they haven't expanded their use, people see them and know where they are and don't speed and they don't make enough money off of them to justify putting up more.
Yeah, ultimately safety should be YOUR number one concern, regardless of why the speed traps are there. I think originally, speed limits, speeding tickets, and other traffic laws are meant to discourage unsafe behavior but have since been used for making money. Originally Posted by SW17LS
Well, I could have selected the legal tint in the first place which would have given me control over that too.The cameras are very well marked, they aren't hidden. For the most part I am able to avoid them, however I drive a lot and I'm often on the hurry someplace, on the phone, whatever and I miss one or two a year and get a photo ticket.
The tickets are $40...its not the end of the world.
And, they aren't put there for our safety, they're put there to make money. I've had members of our local governments tell me that to my face. Thats why they haven't expanded their use, people see them and know where they are and don't speed and they don't make enough money off of them to justify putting up more.
So, in terms of the 5-10 over argument - I think it depends on whether said speed is actually safe based on the road conditions as well as other vehicle's speeds.CL Community Team
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In NJ even old people are childish jerks. I can say that because my wife is from NJ lol
seriously, if I never set foot in the state of NJ again that’d be awesome lol
seriously, if I never set foot in the state of NJ again that’d be awesome lol
ok enough with writing off the population of a whole state. i don't care for the state itself either (crowded, high taxes, etc.), but there are no doubt millions of nice people in nj.
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In my office career, before I retired, the person who was probably our best and most capable worker was from New Jersey...don't remember which town. He still works at the office....I still stay in occasional contact with him.Originally Posted by bitkahuna
there are no doubt millions of nice people in nj.
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You might be over analyzing. lol. What was the speed limit that you were doing 80 in?
haha 65. Sometimes I wonder if people speed up, not because they are being mean, but because it's like when the doctor hits your knee with a mallet and your leg kicks up....Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
You might be over analyzing. lol. What was the speed limit that you were doing 80 in?
Seriously, 80 is not fast on the NJ turnpike unless it's backed up. It may be close to the point where a trooper might be "interested," but there are definitely faster fish to fry as it is almost below avg. speed when the road is clear...
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The net net is I would like to set my cruise and just maintain my speed. Traffic was really light yesterday so the elderly man behaved badly imho.
As far as sharing the road, this was the case when I was in Scandinavia in the 90's. Heck, when they get off a plane, it's orderly, row by row, instead of everyone rushing to the overheads then standing in the aisle asap...
Passing on the right is inherently more dangerous and I've had enough people speed up on the left when I try and pass them. I just now assume they do this so when I do pass on the right of the fast lane, I make sure I'm at least 10 -15 mph more to overtake quickly so they don't have time to react. If they do try and speed up, I've just floored it at this point and overtaken. Just the daily crazy commute in so-cal.Originally Posted by Johnhav430
I may be over analyzing, but I wonder if there is some knee jerk reaction to a car getting closer, i.e. passing? Because this happened on the NJ Tpk yesterday. A Mercedes was going slow, maybe 65 mph, and we are doing about 80 mph, so I got out to pass, now I cannot pass the Mercedes? There is no question the driver was elderly, so I almost think he wouldn't be playing games? Even my wife made a comment, did you do something to him? So I backed off, moved into the middle lane, and guess what? He moves back over and is at 65 mph again. The next time I said the heck with him I'm passing him and just did it. But again, his car must have accelerated to about 80 so, so I had to go even faster. I know, if I only had a dash cam it would be more visual as opposed to my words describing it.The net net is I would like to set my cruise and just maintain my speed. Traffic was really light yesterday so the elderly man behaved badly imho.
As far as sharing the road, this was the case when I was in Scandinavia in the 90's. Heck, when they get off a plane, it's orderly, row by row, instead of everyone rushing to the overheads then standing in the aisle asap...








