Could a Corvette be better than a Ferrari?
06-17-18, 09:06 AM
#91
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06-17-18, 09:15 AM
#92
Lexus Test Driver
How is that not comparing???
Re-read your 1st post about ZR1.
06-17-18, 10:33 AM
#93
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A lot of people in this thread mentioned brand cachet and/or exclusivity and/or wanting to show off as reasons why Ferrari vehicles are more desireable, but it's clearly not just about those things - and Porsche proves that. As I've said for years, the simple reality is that drivers who actually buy $100k cars don't care about numbers; they care about the driving experience, and that's why Porsche can sell ~$100k Caymans and $100k+ 911s like hotcakes while GT-R production had to be drawn down by Nissan some years and ZR-1s sold for $25k+ discount off MSRP.
I agree that the Ferrari brand is mostly marketing hype, but Ferrari still offers cars with far more visceral driving experience than the Corvette. And there's no way brand/marketing alone can explain Porsche's success in the high-end sports car market.
To be fair, the GT-R has never sold well in the USA. Even in its first two years in the USA it only sold 1500+ units each year, which is how many 911 are typically sold in the USA every two months.
I agree that the Ferrari brand is mostly marketing hype, but Ferrari still offers cars with far more visceral driving experience than the Corvette. And there's no way brand/marketing alone can explain Porsche's success in the high-end sports car market.
To be fair, the GT-R has never sold well in the USA. Even in its first two years in the USA it only sold 1500+ units each year, which is how many 911 are typically sold in the USA every two months.
06-17-18, 01:26 PM
#95
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I would say a fair percentage of buyers tend to go off the legacy of what ferrari represents. Not saying they are terrible machines that rely solely on the brand. Those college posters of a prancing horse in classic red exterior beige interior is what brings the crowds on the street sometimes. The thrashing high pitched NA engine
06-17-18, 02:09 PM
#96
Lexus Test Driver
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Ferrari is still the best exotic car manufacturer.
They are a leader in performance, design and technology.
The 488GTB won MTs Best Driver’s car by a landslide and 458 Italia won when it was new as well.
LaFerrari is still considered to be the top Hypercar.
There is worthy competition from Lamborghini, McLaren but they don’t have the full portfolio of exotics that Ferrari provides.
Ferrari is still the best exotic car manufacturer.
They are a leader in performance, design and technology.
The 488GTB won MTs Best Driver’s car by a landslide and 458 Italia won when it was new as well.
LaFerrari is still considered to be the top Hypercar.
There is worthy competition from Lamborghini, McLaren but they don’t have the full portfolio of exotics that Ferrari provides.
06-17-18, 04:18 PM
#99
Lexus Fanatic
I'd consider Astons to be exotics, but of a somewhat different type than Ferraris. Astons, still with plenty of power, traditionally have more of an emphasis on Grand Touring, interior luxury, attention to detail, and refinement, although Ferrari, admittedly, over the years, has also built a couple of machines that are more or less in that same ballpark.
Last edited by mmarshall; 06-17-18 at 04:23 PM.
06-17-18, 04:25 PM
#100
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06-17-18, 04:40 PM
#101
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Their 'mystique'-style marketing, the entire BS buying process, market demand -1 supply strategy, more recently their focus on hp numbers and emissions rather than the driving experience, and more historically the greatest Chris Harris article of all time: https://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins
I grew up as a huge Ferrari fan but soon realized the brand is just too much BS.
I grew up as a huge Ferrari fan but soon realized the brand is just too much BS.
06-17-18, 04:40 PM
#102
Lexus Fanatic
06-17-18, 04:44 PM
#103
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06-17-18, 04:52 PM
#104
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06-17-18, 05:02 PM
#105
Lexus Fanatic
Somehow, we all (me included) got off-topic.....'Vettes vs. Ferraris.
One thing I can't help wondering is how GM's Mark Reuss would have felt if, instead of wrecking a 120K Corvette pace-car starting that race, he had wrecked a Ferrari costing least twice as much LOL.
One thing I can't help wondering is how GM's Mark Reuss would have felt if, instead of wrecking a 120K Corvette pace-car starting that race, he had wrecked a Ferrari costing least twice as much LOL.