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Old 06-07-18, 10:28 AM
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Honda and General Motors have announced a partnership to jointly develop battery cells and modules for electric vehicles. The companies want their next-generation batteries to have higher energy density in a smaller packaging, with faster charging, and to make them more viable to manufacture.

With the two companies joining forces, there are manufacturing efficiency benefits along with scaling benefits, according to the statement released by both GM and Honda. The companies have already partnered in fuel cell technology, working with the commercialization of fuel cell and hydrogen storage systems. On the electric car front, the collaboration is based on "next-generation" GM batteries sold to Honda and is mainly aimed for the development of North American market vehicles. The partnership appears to signify that despite its eager betting on fuel cell technology, Honda isn't willing to neglect battery electric vehicles, even if it needs a large-scale companion like GM to make it affordable.

"This new, multiyear agreement with Honda further demonstrates General Motors' capability to innovate toward a profitable electric portfolio," said Mark Reuss, GM's executive vice president of global product development.

"In addition to our ongoing joint development and production of fuel cells, this battery component collaboration will enable us to take a new step toward the realization of a sustainable society," said Takashi Sekiguchi, Honda's chief officer for automobile operations.

GM is also partnered with battery developer Sakti3, which was later acquired by Dyson for its own electric vehicle development.
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I wonder why Honda decided to work with GM rather than another Japanese company, like Toyota?
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no one wants to collaborate with Tesla on batteries?
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no one wants to collaborate with Tesla on batteries?
Collaborate? A couple more months and the company itself might be for sale.
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no one wants to collaborate with Tesla on batteries?
Tesla's Gigafactory is co-developed with Panasonic. Toyota is also working on it's solid-state batteries with Panasonic.
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I wonder why Honda decided to work with GM rather than another Japanese company, like Toyota?

Can't say for sure, but Honda probably sees Toyota as too much of a direct competitor, even given the difference in size.
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Tesla's Gigafactory is co-developed with Panasonic. Toyota is also working on it's solid-state batteries with Panasonic.
I would think that Honda and GM are cooperating to develop next-generation batteries, like the solid-state battery that Toyota and Panasonic are working together to develop.

Panasonic is building current-generation lithium-ion batteries, packaged in the very-specific 2170-size (that no other automaker is using that I know of) for Tesla, at the Gigafactory 1.
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hmm, very interesting.. if this keeps up we'll probably be seeing a war on battery tech vs battery tech or battery tech vs fuel cell in the near future like Bluray vs HDDVD or VHS vs Beta
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hmm, very interesting.. if this keeps up we'll probably be seeing a war on battery tech vs battery tech or battery tech vs fuel cell in the near future like Bluray vs HDDVD or VHS vs Beta
What no love for LaserDisc?!?!
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^^^ good one! i totally forgot about that format. great for karaoke. in all honesty, who know's whose tech will come out on top
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I wonder why Honda decided to work with GM rather than another Japanese company, like Toyota?
because business is global and because most of honda's business is in the u.s.?
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