BippuLexus

But it will never be a GS. =/

I hope everyone is wrong and Lexus does a 180 with a surprise GS teaser by 2019.

Also - I read that the Lexus ES will only sell as a hybrid model in Europe? If the GS is canceled in Europe but they only sell the hybrid ES there, doesn't that sort of comes off as they don't care about that segment anymore?

Hoovey689

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Let's hope that translates to weight loss. Lexus's have always been a bit chunky. The LS, LC, RC, IS are all prime examples. If they could shed 200-250lbs they would perform significantly better IMO.

Hoovey689

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Not necessarily. Some countries like Norway for example ONLY sell Lexus hybrids.

Toys4RJill

Hoovey689

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SMH. We always get shaft. The ES for years overseas has also had auto folding mirrors and available rear heated seats.

BippuLexus

Only sell Lexus Hybrids? Due to law or Lexus just want to sell hybrids there only?

Definitely. We have been shafted for a long time now. Our LED turn signal regulations are stupid too. The Lexus IS was suppose to get triple beam LED headlights with LED turn signals but didn't because of USA regulations. The Audi sequential turn signals aren't as clean as Europes, where they don't need that extra blinker and just have a flowing line.

Yeah. The 7G Lexus ES doesn't have power side folding mirrors and heated rear seats. But I think the Avalon has heated rear seats, which is so weird.

pman6

when was this announced?

Hoovey689

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Lexus chooses too, but the reason is because hybrids and EVs comprise the majority of new car sales. In 2016 hybrids and EV's accounted for 40% of new-car registrations. In 2017 that number jumped to 52%. It also helps that the Norwegian government incentivizes electrified cars by reducing or eliminating taxes and tolls, and owners get access to free parking and charging. The incentives are part of Norway's push to eliminate fossil fuel sales in the country before 2030. Some parts of the country are beginning to charge additional road tolls for owners of diesel vehicles.

spwolf

Lexus sells 98% hybrids in western europe.

Nobody buys large car petrols in western europe these days... only cars like Yaris sell well with petrol engines due to cost reasons.

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john341

Why is everybody so worried about GS Lol. My heart tells me GS is not going anywhere, IF anything it is going to take a small break and come back 10 times better. Toyota probably halted the new gen GS development to work on other important project such as LF-1, new SUV lineup etc. if ES has shown this much improvement, think about what the future GS is going to be like.

john341

Yes, its on GA-K platform, which is shared with Camry and Avalon. But the ES has some Body difference, such as aluminum hood, fenders and chassis braces.

Lexus Enthusiast have a really good technical breakdown of the 7ES: https://lexusenthusiast.com/2018/06/...hnical-review/

john341

Even some Camry models have that in some Asian countries. Keep in mind, in the US owners are not usually driven around in the ES, so the back seat is not a priority. But abroad the US they take ES, Camry as a pseudo executive car.

peteharvey

That is a superb website for 7ES summary.