Oh give me a break with this politically correct nonsense. I'm not using the term to refer to people who are mentally challenged, I'm using this term to refer to drivers that behave like they are retards. I don't care if they are offended or if this is disrespectful - their behavior kills.

 

I feel bad for the motorcyclist and his family, but wasn't he speeding close to 100mph. That car making a right hand turn was apparently in the middle of his turn. In this case the title is misleading. Should be 'Everyone please watch for motorcyclists'. The car was not speeding.

 

 

How is that a mistake by the driver when they're already turning? The small object in the motorcycle is barreling down at you at near triple digits. Driver would barely have been able to see them when they started their turn. It's unfortunate, and why I don't immediately stomp on the gas when the light turns green, me actively trying to avoid red light runners.

 

I tried, everyone.

I guess I could use a 3rd party source: https://www.r-word.org/r-word-effects-of-the-word.aspx

I am just trying to make sure we have a healthy sense of community here - and using generalized, potentially derogatory terms to describe people is no way to do that. Especially if you are equating people without the mental ability of others with those who are just reckless.

 

Stop being so stuck on the term I used, believe me I use much harsher terms in person towards drivers when they deserve it.

 

Nonsense. The motorcyclist's camera picked up the car nice and clear, so the driver could clearly see the motorcycle unless distraction was a factor. Its just a simply a reality, drivers do not respect and do not yield right of way to motorcyclists - I personally encountered this many times when speed was not a factor at all. Many drivers will turn into motorcycles right of way but not into another cars right of way if it was going the same speed and was at the same distance.

 

Fine. As long as you are okay with alienating people.

Again, you are basically saying that people with mental challenges and those who are just uncaring or reckless are the same thing, which the article does a pretty good job explaining. That's all I am saying.

Also I disagree that the driver of the car was at fault - if you are going 30 MPH over the speed limit in close proximity to other cars, you're pretty much asking for it. I have been literally startled by motorcyclists whizzing by me at high speed before on the interstate, in traffic mind you. It's difficult to react if there's a high enough speed. If the biker was going 95, for instance, and the car was going 60, that's the same delta as if the car was parked, and the motorcycle going 35. Except... the car wasn't stopped - other variables for the driver to attend to while moving. Maybe it's technically the car's fault?

 

Perhaps the driver could have been distracted we don't know. I've re-watched the video starting at 2:50 multiple times. The motorcycle should not have been going as fast as they were. That sort of speed with other variables leads to these sorts of unfortunate events. Just because the camera could see the car doesn't mean the car could see the motorcycle. The motorcycle could have been silver also from what I could tell and blends a bit with the gray overcast sky. Drivers should be aware of their surroundings, but the responsibility falls on everyone operating a vehicle with a motor. That 'dot' in the distance can come real quick at high speeds.

Here in CA during rush hour I always move over for motorcycles lane-splitting. Most riders usually appreciate it and give the motorcycle wave to me

 

There is always a cry closet for the overly sensitive types. https://nypost.com/2018/04/26/colleg...-out-students/

As far a uncaring and reckless drivers, they need therapy from this guy.

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Again, I am with you on reckless drivers... But don't be a jerk, is all I am saying. I don't want people coming to the forums thinking we are a bunch or rednecks or 12-year-olds. End of discussion.

Also 100% agree with you, Hoovey.

 

yeah, uh, he's dead too.

 

you can adjust the title if you like - but it was meant to say that everyone, including motorcyclists should slow down.

 

Thats ridiculous - the driver of the car could clearly see the motorcycle. Visibility was no problem in this case, it was lack of paying attention and making a poor decision. Sure, the motorcyclist's speed was a factor as well, but the much bigger factor is the overall entitlist driver attitude and car culture that exists.

 

OK, folks.....instead of arguing this thing forever, let's just agree that, as is often the case wth incidents like this, there was fault on both sides. There is no excuse for going almost 100 MPH on a bike, on a road like this. There is also no excuse for not looking down the road to see if the way is clear before making a left turn in front of oncoming traffic. Even with a green light or green turn-arrow, one is taught from the first day in driving school to LOOK before starting up and making sure the road is clear.