Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

2019 Genesis G70

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-15-17, 01:10 PM
  #16  
BrownPride
Lead Lap
 
BrownPride's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: West Coast
Posts: 782
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Exterior looks great, albeit a bit derivate in parts.
Interior material quality looks good and in line for the segment.

But interior design is a huge letdown. It looks more like a posh Mazda 6 inside than a competitor to the Germans and Infiniti Q50.
BrownPride is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 02:09 PM
  #17  
Hoovey689
Moderator
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,283
Received 122 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Man the comparison test with the 3-Series, IS, C-Class, A4, XE, Q50, ATS, and Giulia should be fun!
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 02:19 PM
  #18  
Hoovey689
Moderator
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,283
Received 122 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
yes. not feeling the interior much. but i bet this car is FAST.

gs has even more to worry about.
Not sure why you even mention the GS other than to get a rile. It's 192.1" in length vs the G70's 184.4". This is an IS competitor which is 183". Genesis G70 is a 2019 model. 5th Gen GS will be a 2019 model, nbd.

Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 02:40 PM
  #19  
COOLIS
Instructor
 
COOLIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Ca
Posts: 792
Received 35 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Propulsion
It's gorgeous! Interior is a bit minimalistic for my taste but it's a good starter.

But without dedicated dealerships the Genesis brand will be ignored by the targeted buyer.
Hate to sound like a snob but I don't want to be in the same service center as Hyundai Elantra owners.
Paying a premium for a luxury badge shouldn't come with any exceptions in my view.
I couldn't agree more. I have toyed for nearly two years with buying a Genesis 5.0 and G80 5.0, but I can't get past the Hyundai service. I've contacted a few dealers here in Southern California and have not been impressed with service. They really need to open standalone dealers if they want to be competitive. If they're not planning on doing so, at least train the sales agents that someone buying a $20k car is looking for a different experience than someone buying a $60k+ car.

On a different note, I have yet to see a G90 here on the road in Los Angeles, one of the most premium heavy markets in the US. I'm on the road all over Southern California and have seen one in San Diego. Looks like this will be another Equus in terms of volume.
COOLIS is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 02:59 PM
  #20  
Fizzboy7
Lexus Test Driver
 
Fizzboy7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: California
Posts: 9,679
Received 156 Likes on 91 Posts
Default

Blah. The front is way to busy and confused below the headlights. There are gashes and fillers in all directions, choking off areas that would look better if left open. The rear is very Infiniti and Mercedes C class. The taillights would have looked better stretched out instead of being vertical. Interior is fair at best. Really tired of the retro quilted seats and hooded gauges. Wish designers would move into the next stage of the future instead of rehashing the 70's. Other than the power output, I see little keeping this car fresh and moving out of dealers.
Fizzboy7 is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 03:04 PM
  #21  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,577
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by COOLIS
I couldn't agree more. I have toyed for nearly two years with buying a Genesis 5.0 and G80 5.0, but I can't get past the Hyundai service. I've contacted a few dealers here in Southern California and have not been impressed with service. They really need to open standalone dealers if they want to be competitive. If they're not planning on doing so, at least train the sales agents that someone buying a $20k car is looking for a different experience than someone buying a $60k+ car.

On a different note, I have yet to see a G90 here on the road in Los Angeles, one of the most premium heavy markets in the US. I'm on the road all over Southern California and have seen one in San Diego. Looks like this will be another Equus in terms of volume.

It isn't just the Genesis models. Few other large-sized (by today's standards) or luxury sedans are selling well....in the U.S., right now, it is simply not a sedan market, thanks mostly to SUVs. That applies to almost all of them.....Lacrosse, Impala, Continental, MKZ, CT6, CTS, XTS, Impala, Cadenza, Avalon, etc..... The Hyundai Azera has already been dropped in the American market, and GM is considering doing the same to all of its large sedans. Buick even dropped the mod-size Regal sedan, and will be carrying on with a Regal hatchback and wagon. The Lexus ES350 is one of the few exceptions that is still selling well enough keep its head above water.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 03:08 PM
  #22  
mjeds
Lexus Champion
 
mjeds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: CA
Posts: 2,424
Received 188 Likes on 145 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by COOLIS
I couldn't agree more. I have toyed for nearly two years with buying a Genesis 5.0 and G80 5.0, but I can't get past the Hyundai service. I've contacted a few dealers here in Southern California and have not been impressed with service. They really need to open standalone dealers if they want to be competitive. If they're not planning on doing so, at least train the sales agents that someone buying a $20k car is looking for a different experience than someone buying a $60k+ car.

On a different note, I have yet to see a G90 here on the road in Los Angeles, one of the most premium heavy markets in the US. I'm on the road all over Southern California and have seen one in San Diego. Looks like this will be another Equus in terms of volume.
haven't seen a G90 and hardly see any G80s, older "Genesis" models yes, but not the new premium brand G80.

additionally the local dealers aren't carrying any inventory of the G90s, special order only apparently. and no G80 Sports within 50 miles of me. The "Genesis" dealer by my office had 3 G80s, and they have been sitting there for 2 months at least.
mjeds is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 06:13 PM
  #23  
pman6
Racer
 
pman6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: CALIFORNIA
Posts: 1,903
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

front is cheap and ugly looking. Looks like a rodent.
suffers from gape maw
The headlights look too similar to hyundai's, and the angle of the headlights doesn't flow with the grille.

A lot of these cars suffer from weak chin.

overall looks competent, but gets a meh from me.


Last edited by pman6; 09-15-17 at 06:22 PM.
pman6 is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 07:13 PM
  #24  
JDR76
Lexus Champion
 
JDR76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: WA
Posts: 12,332
Received 1,603 Likes on 1,021 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by peteharvey
I meant on "debut" as Hyundai Genesis.
Midlife now, the G80 is falling and falling.
Even on its debut it never sold anything close to 30k per month. That's Camry territory.
JDR76 is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 07:14 PM
  #25  
LexBob2
Lexus Champion
 
LexBob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 10,987
Received 137 Likes on 111 Posts
Default

The G70 looks decent enough and rounds out the Genesis sedan lineup. Still, they can't get their CUV and SUV to market soon enough. That's where the consumer interest and volume is right now.
LexBob2 is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 07:14 PM
  #26  
GS3Tek
Moderator
iTrader: (8)
 
GS3Tek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: so cal
Posts: 12,358
Received 162 Likes on 123 Posts
Default

Not bad, I kinda like it.

Interior is a little mazda'ish
GS3Tek is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 07:21 PM
  #27  
97-SC300
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
97-SC300's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Earth
Posts: 9,238
Received 128 Likes on 107 Posts
Default

I like it alot. Has a very European feel to it.

Not too crazy about the complex/overly aggressive front end but most automakers are making them these days.... guess that's how it it now.
97-SC300 is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 08:53 PM
  #28  
peteharvey
Lead Lap
 
peteharvey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Ca
Posts: 4,173
Received 449 Likes on 294 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JDR76
Even on its debut it never sold anything close to 30k per month. That's Camry territory.
I see what you mean.
Typo error I'm afraid.
Meant to be 30k+/yr on debut; rather than 30k+/mth.
peteharvey is online now  
Old 09-15-17, 11:17 PM
  #29  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 73,762
Received 2,126 Likes on 1,378 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Not sure why you even mention the GS other than to get a rile. It's 192.1" in length vs the G70's 184.4". This is an IS competitor which is 183". Genesis G70 is a 2019 model. 5th Gen GS will be a 2019 model, nbd.
no 'rile' intended i really thought this g70 was bigger. as for the is, i do think this g70 is way better looking.

Last edited by bitkahuna; 09-15-17 at 11:23 PM.
bitkahuna is offline  
Old 09-15-17, 11:19 PM
  #30  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 73,762
Received 2,126 Likes on 1,378 Posts
Default

At first i thought the high trunk lid was awkward but now i think they're going more toward bmw's gran coupe look and maybe it has more trunk space than a typical competitor.
bitkahuna is offline  


Quick Reply: 2019 Genesis G70



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:57 AM.