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Old 09-16-17, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna View Post
no 'rile' intended i really thought this g70 was bigger. as for the is, i do think this g70 is way better looking.
My apologies for sounding so brash.

This reminds me that if currently their smallest sedan offering is G70, then they didn't leave much room for larger vehicles associated with larger number since G80 and G90 are taken. Perhaps they're done with sedans though, the premium luxury utilitiy vehicles will be a big focus.
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Nice job by Genesis for 1st generation car. They will only get better.

Who would have ever imagined Hyundai / Genesis with more advanced powertrains than Lexus.
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Old 09-16-17, 05:10 AM
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Yep, that's what I've been most critical of and everyone thinks I'm just bashing Toyota. It's a reality and why I'm not driving one now.

The best engine they have now was partially designed by Yamaha and the new Supra will likewise be designed by someone else lol. I honestly believe Toyota just lost its edge in engine development. They put so much resources on hybrids, that they lost touch with anything that can actually go fast or even drive well.

That's also why the new LS will be slow and Lexus' published HP and torque numbers are meaningless. Look at the IS200t. It's rated rather well. Has what 258 lb-ft of torque and high HP numbers. These power numbers in any other German competitor can accelerate it to well under 6 seconds yet this engine in a tiny IS would have a hard time beating a minivan, haha.

Look across their entire lineup, it's all slow. Compounded by the fact that their published numbers aren't reality and they're even slower. Well-suited for geriatrics, I guess.

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Nice job by Genesis for 1st generation car. They will only get better.

Who would have ever imagined Hyundai / Genesis with more advanced powertrains than Lexus.
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Old 09-16-17, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411 View Post
My apologies for sounding so brash.
no worries, you're one of the politest people on here

This reminds me that if currently their smallest sedan offering is G70, then they didn't leave much room for larger vehicles associated with larger number since G80 and G90 are taken. Perhaps they're done with sedans though, the premium luxury utilitiy vehicles will be a big focus.
Well 90's large, the 80 ain't small and now this so i don't think they need anything between, but i could imagine them having a 40 or something at some point although i bet the emphasis is on utes next.
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Old 09-16-17, 05:33 AM
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I guess I am missing what everyone else is seeing. To me the biggest offense is the headlights not matching the grill and the lower intakes. There's horizontal lines, vertical lines, diagonal lines... and literally nothing lines up with the other features. No continuity. I find it to be pretty messy. But whats hilarious is the rest of the car looks 2005 midsize sedan boring.
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Old 09-16-17, 05:36 PM
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Quick walk around of the G70.
Mute the annoying music

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Old 09-17-17, 11:15 AM
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looks better in the video.
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Old 09-17-17, 02:36 PM
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Don't like this car, took design cues from too many of it's competitors and sadly the mish mash lines does not create any cohesiveness both inside and outside.
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Any reports on pricing and actual availability?
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Old 09-17-17, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GFerg View Post
I guess I am missing what everyone else is seeing. To me the biggest offense is the headlights not matching the grill and the lower intakes. There's horizontal lines, vertical lines, diagonal lines... and literally nothing lines up with the other features. No continuity. I find it to be pretty messy. But whats hilarious is the rest of the car looks 2005 midsize sedan boring.
i disagree with absolutely every word of your post.

watch that walkaround video posted after your post...
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Old 09-17-17, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GFerg View Post
I guess I am missing what everyone else is seeing. To me the biggest offense is the headlights not matching the grill and the lower intakes. There's horizontal lines, vertical lines, diagonal lines... and literally nothing lines up with the other features. No continuity. I find it to be pretty messy. But whats hilarious is the rest of the car looks 2005 midsize sedan boring.
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Don't like this car, took design cues from too many of it's competitors and sadly the mish mash lines does not create any cohesiveness both inside and outside.
Originally Posted by bitkahuna View Post
i disagree with absolutely every word of your post.

watch that walkaround video posted after your post...
I had the horn for the midsize Genesis G80, and I was expecting a lot more from this compact G70, but oh well, that's life; Lexus and Genesis still seem to style cars with less consistency than the Germans.
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Old 09-18-17, 10:03 AM
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This new Genesis is going to be about successful as the Infiniti offering in the segment. A big meh.

Biggest winners: Mercedes and BMW, won't lose any sales

Biggest loser's: Lexus IS and Infiniti.

Some loss for Audi.

The overall market is shrinking. This won't do all that well.
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Old 09-18-17, 10:21 AM
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I would guess that if the G70 does as well as the Infiniti Q50, Hyundai/Genesis would be quite pleased.
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Old 09-18-17, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill View Post
This new Genesis is going to be about successful as the Infiniti offering in the segment. A big meh.
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I would guess that if the G70 does as well as the Infiniti Q50, Hyundai/Genesis would be quite pleased.
The Infiniti Q50, though, has that (IMO) silly Adaptive electronic steer-by-wire option that a lot of people (including myself) have misgivings about.....even though there is supposedly a direct-mechanical backup if the electrics fail. The Genesis G70, even if not terribly popular, will at least not have that Achilles Heel around its neck.

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Old 09-18-17, 10:50 AM
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The electronic steer by wire is an option that almost no cars have on it. I don't think its a liability for them as a model at all.
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