The new 4 door AMG GT
#31
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There'a an old saying in the auto buisness...."What's more important...looking at your vehicle, or looking out of it?" ...though, of course, that saying originated before the age of back-up cameras. Same with headroom..."Looking at your vehicle, or getting in and out of it"? That's particularly true with sunroof housings.
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#32
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There'a an old saying in the auto buisness...."What's more important...looking at your vehicle, or looking out of it?" ...though, of course, that saying originated before the age of back-up cameras. Same with headroom..."Looking at your vehicle, or getting in and out of it"? That's particularly true with sunroof housings.
If I cared more about rear seat space than I did cool, snoopy looks I wouldn't be buying a 4 door coupe. I'd buy an S63.
This is a sports car, comfort comes after style and performance by design.
#33
that journalist also said he couldn't fit his foot under the seat that why you see his legs being cramped up at 90 degree angle like that.
you can watch his review here, he got in the back at 8:28 mark.
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#34
So does this replace the current CLS???? I know that model is a bit long in the tooth and due for a replacement soon. And if they are selling this along with the CLS, does it have the same sheet metal???? You know, the sportier/more powerful version gets different bumpers, side strakes, spoiler, etc, or is it all new sheetmetal, different roofline, quarter panels, etc??
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So does this replace the current CLS???? I know that model is a bit long in the tooth and due for a replacement soon. And if they are selling this along with the CLS, does it have the same sheet metal???? You know, the sportier/more powerful version gets different bumpers, side strakes, spoiler, etc, or is it all new sheetmetal, different roofline, quarter panels, etc??
#36
Okay but my main question was does the 3rd gen CLS and AMG GT 4 door share any sheet metal??? Are they basically the same car with different front/rear bumpers and some slight tweaks??? Or are they all completely different sheet metal stamping???
#37
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Despite having similar main grille shapes, the AMG GT is distinguished by the vertical bars that are now an AMG trademark (started by the AMG GT R). The CLS has just a simple horizontal bar that's solid on the CLS 450 and split on the CLS 53. The AMG GT's headlights are lower and more horizontal than the scowling lights on the CLS. There's more going on in the AMG GT's sheetmetal, too. The hood has a pair of prominent bulges similar to those on the SL 300 Gullwing. The AMG GT's fenders and bumpers bulge out much more than the comparatively taut and lean CLS. And of course, the AMG GT is a hatchback, whereas the CLS is a conventional sedan.
#39
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They make 4 door coupes because it is still easier to get in and out of than 2 door coupes, and you still get that coupe like roofline that some buyers desire. A compromise for practicality, but people buying these models do not have backseat passengers comfort and convenience as a priority but for rarer occasions.
#40
I read a review of the AMG GT 4 door somewhere, but can't find it when I want it. It said basically that the AMG GT 4 door will replace the high performance CLS versions. The CLS will get only 6 cyl engines from now on so the V-8 option requires a step up to the AMG GT. It said also, that the platform for the AMG GT 4 door is the E class wagon.
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Wow that looks incredible.
Wow that looks incredible.
#42
I read a review of the AMG GT 4 door somewhere, but can't find it when I want it. It said basically that the AMG GT 4 door will replace the high performance CLS versions. The CLS will get only 6 cyl engines from now on so the V-8 option requires a step up to the AMG GT. It said also, that the platform for the AMG GT 4 door is the E class wagon.
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2019 Mercedes-AMG GT Four-Door starts at $137,000
That's the GT 63, with the 63 S even more, but consider some comparisons
Even though we drove it months ago, it's taken until now for Mercedes to give us the pricetag for the 2019 Mercedes-AMG GT Four-Door. Unsurprisingly, it's not cheap. The first two models to go on sale are the twin-turbo V8 GT 63 and the more powerful GT 63 S. The former starts at $137,495 including destination, and the latter starts at $159,995.
This pricing is interesting in a few ways. For one thing, it's quite a bit more expensive than the base Mercedes-AMG GT Coupe (two-door). That car starts at $113,395. Its 469-horsepower version of the twin-turbo V8 is much less powerful than the 577 horsepower in the GT 63 sedan. In fact, to get that amount of power in the coupe, you have to spend $157,995 on the top-level, track-focused GT R. Then when you consider that the GT 63 S makes a whopping 630 horsepower for just $2,000 more than the GT R, you could almost argue that the sedan is a bargain in the GT line.
In reality, though, people probably won't be comparing the GT coupe and sedan, but rather the sedan with its closest rival, the Porsche Panamera. Now, while a Panamera can be had for under $90,000, that's for a V6 model with just 330 horsepower, so it's not quite comparable to one of the AMG GT 63 models. The GT 53 coming later will combat that. To get a Panamera with a V8, you have to get a GTS, which starts at just under $130,000. That's less than the Mercedes-AMG GT 63, but the Porsche also has less power at 453 horses. Moving up to the Panamera Turbo brings 550 horsepower and a price tag just over $150,000. And again, that's a bit less than the GT 63 S in price, but also significantly less in power, too. The only Panamera to top the AMG GT Four-Door is the Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid with 680 combined horsepower. But it greatly exceeds the Merc's price at about $187,000. So it seems Mercedes has positioned its new super sedan well.
This pricing is interesting in a few ways. For one thing, it's quite a bit more expensive than the base Mercedes-AMG GT Coupe (two-door). That car starts at $113,395. Its 469-horsepower version of the twin-turbo V8 is much less powerful than the 577 horsepower in the GT 63 sedan. In fact, to get that amount of power in the coupe, you have to spend $157,995 on the top-level, track-focused GT R. Then when you consider that the GT 63 S makes a whopping 630 horsepower for just $2,000 more than the GT R, you could almost argue that the sedan is a bargain in the GT line.
In reality, though, people probably won't be comparing the GT coupe and sedan, but rather the sedan with its closest rival, the Porsche Panamera. Now, while a Panamera can be had for under $90,000, that's for a V6 model with just 330 horsepower, so it's not quite comparable to one of the AMG GT 63 models. The GT 53 coming later will combat that. To get a Panamera with a V8, you have to get a GTS, which starts at just under $130,000. That's less than the Mercedes-AMG GT 63, but the Porsche also has less power at 453 horses. Moving up to the Panamera Turbo brings 550 horsepower and a price tag just over $150,000. And again, that's a bit less than the GT 63 S in price, but also significantly less in power, too. The only Panamera to top the AMG GT Four-Door is the Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid with 680 combined horsepower. But it greatly exceeds the Merc's price at about $187,000. So it seems Mercedes has positioned its new super sedan well.
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