2019 Genesis G70
09-24-17, 07:50 PM
#91
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by BoDarville
so you want to compare a "reasonably equipped" S4 to a "loaded" IS350 and a "high end" G70 just to fit your argument? what does a "loaded" & "high end" S4 list for?
p.s. stop using apostrophes
p.s. stop using apostrophes
Edit:
A fully loaded F sport AWD with ML and blind spot at $50.6k. A comparatively equipped S4 with Nav and sport pack is $57.8k from the Audi website. you have way more available goodies on the S4 if you want bigger tires, the virtual cockpit, massage chair and other really expensive junk but i've matched feature for feature for comparative purposes. Also, the S4 comes with waaaaaay more performance so the $7k doesn't look too bad.
Last edited by EZZ; 09-24-17 at 08:40 PM. Reason: clarification
09-25-17, 05:55 PM
#92
you in LA? autotrader shows there are a total of 4 audi s4 for sale at or below your stated price within 1000 miles of LA. for reference, 1000 miles would include seattle, denver, billings mt, and lubbock tx. 4 total! good luck in your negotiations.
01-22-18, 06:39 PM
#93
Lexus Fanatic
Sat in the new Genesis G70 today.
Was at Square One shopping centre and indoors they have a Genesis dealer. Inside they had two G80s, one G90 and he new G70. I am assuming the G70 was a prototype or pre production model. It was red with a quilted black interior with black leather and red stitching. Next to the G70 was a digital display informing you that you could pre order today at a locked in finance rate or lease rate.
Overall, the interior is fully competitive and overall a pleasant place to be. The strongest attribute would be the centre stack and controls area. All the guages were lit up and so was the infotainment system. Seemed to be pretty easy to use.
My overall all impression was that of new modern Audi materials meet the overall design feel of an Infiniti.
While I was not blown away like OMG, I was also not disappointed.
Some notes:
The window lack the slow down of Lexus as the finally close
Trunk had no auto close button or at least I did not find it
Rear seats have three stage heated seats
switches seemed nice. Especially the centre stack
Some details
Real gas door lock
unlock lock door switches are separate
Overall a nice theme to the dealer
Paint job was ok
At the end of the day, I don't think this car has the goods to convert long time Lexus, MB or Audi fans. Perhaps there is a place for it somew but I am not sure where.
Overall, the interior is fully competitive and overall a pleasant place to be. The strongest attribute would be the centre stack and controls area. All the guages were lit up and so was the infotainment system. Seemed to be pretty easy to use.
My overall all impression was that of new modern Audi materials meet the overall design feel of an Infiniti.
While I was not blown away like OMG, I was also not disappointed.
Some notes:
The window lack the slow down of Lexus as the finally close
Trunk had no auto close button or at least I did not find it
Rear seats have three stage heated seats
switches seemed nice. Especially the centre stack
Some details
Real gas door lock
unlock lock door switches are separate
Overall a nice theme to the dealer
Paint job was ok
At the end of the day, I don't think this car has the goods to convert long time Lexus, MB or Audi fans. Perhaps there is a place for it somew but I am not sure where.
01-22-18, 08:20 PM
#96
Sure it didn't have all the bells and whistles and a thousand options to add like the German cars did, but I think it's fair to say it kicked their *** in many areas despite costing MUCH less.
01-22-18, 08:21 PM
#97
Lexus Fanatic
Neither did Lexus in the early 90s and the original LS400 turned the luxury world upside down.
Sure it didn't have all the bells and whistles and a thousand options to add like the German cars did, but I think it's fair to say it kicked their *** in many areas despite costing MUCH less.
Sure it didn't have all the bells and whistles and a thousand options to add like the German cars did, but I think it's fair to say it kicked their *** in many areas despite costing MUCH less.
But Genesis is not kicking anyone’s asses.
01-22-18, 08:27 PM
#99
Lexus Fanatic
However, Hyundai is not doing well. Their sales are down. And the prices they charge are not on the same level as their competitors. I will say, today at the Genesis dealer in the mall, I did not think at once that I was sitting inside technically a Hyundai product.
01-22-18, 08:29 PM
#100
Lexus Test Driver
They are inexpensive with long warranty, to make up for shortcomings that comes with being "inexpensive".
01-22-18, 08:30 PM
#102
Lexus Fanatic
The reason why is simple. A lot of people just don't agree with you, and don't agree that they are crap...although Genesis products aren't really getting the attention they deserve.
01-22-18, 08:32 PM
#103
Lexus Fanatic
01-22-18, 08:33 PM
#104
Lexus Fanatic
But Toyota and Honda almost across the board sell for a lot more. It’s all been discussed
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 01-22-18 at 08:37 PM.
01-22-18, 08:37 PM
#105
Lexus Fanatic
They are inexpensive and well-built, with a long warranty.
Kia just took J.D. Power's crown for Best IQS (Initial Quality Survey), which means how the vehicle comes out of the factory. That pretty much co-incides with my own observations, though Opel-based Buicks also seem to rank very high along those lines. Hondas and Acuras do, too, though they have recently had a downturn in long-term reliability.
Are they perfect? No. A number of Kia and Hyundai products have seat-cusions that IMO are too firm and uncomfortable, The paint-color selection on some versions is a joke. And, except for the brand-new Stinger, they have generally refused, in the Kia/Hyundai line, to offer AWD in regular passenger cars. But it's hard to beat them for the price....when I settled on my Lacrosse, the G80 AWD was a strong temptation.
Kia just took J.D. Power's crown for Best IQS (Initial Quality Survey), which means how the vehicle comes out of the factory. That pretty much co-incides with my own observations, though Opel-based Buicks also seem to rank very high along those lines. Hondas and Acuras do, too, though they have recently had a downturn in long-term reliability.
Are they perfect? No. A number of Kia and Hyundai products have seat-cusions that IMO are too firm and uncomfortable, The paint-color selection on some versions is a joke. And, except for the brand-new Stinger, they have generally refused, in the Kia/Hyundai line, to offer AWD in regular passenger cars. But it's hard to beat them for the price....when I settled on my Lacrosse, the G80 AWD was a strong temptation.
Last edited by mmarshall; 01-22-18 at 08:41 PM.