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Old 01-16-18, 08:46 PM
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sometimes i am really puzzled why toyota is so slow is adapting to new technology. took them years to have apple integration and they lost big to competitors, and same here again with car play.

more than a decade ago lexus was way ahead on technology with their navigation and audio systems. but now they are behind. they need to work very hard to not just catch up but be in the front again
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Old 01-16-18, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by coolsaber
"CarPlay will show up in additional 2019 cars from Toyota and Lexus that run the company’s Entune 3.0 (for Toyota) and Enform 2.0 (for Lexus) infotainment platforms as well. It has yet to clarify whether or not 2018 models already running those platforms will get support through a software update."
Since they are not supporting wireless and use USB 2.0, it should be a simple port of the software. No big issues supporting older models, except to reduce testing and support costs.
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Old 01-17-18, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lexnewbi
Since they are not supporting wireless and use USB 2.0, it should be a simple port of the software. No big issues supporting older models, except to reduce testing and support costs.
May be technically possible, but won't happen. Toyota needs a reason for people to get new cars.
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Old 01-17-18, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rominl
sometimes i am really puzzled why toyota is so slow is adapting to new technology. took them years to have apple integration and they lost big to competitors, and same here again with car play.

more than a decade ago lexus was way ahead on technology with their navigation and audio systems. but now they are behind. they need to work very hard to not just catch up but be in the front again
A decade ago, Toyota was working with its own technology so it knew exactly what is in it and what it can do.

But now, with Auto and CarPlay, Toyota is being asked to use someone else's technology. Any good technology company will be careful and will do it due diligence before implementing someone else's technology.
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Originally Posted by Sulu
A decade ago, Toyota was working with its own technology so it knew exactly what is in it and what it can do.

But now, with Auto and CarPlay, Toyota is being asked to use someone else's technology. Any good technology company will be careful and will do it due diligence before implementing someone else's technology.
Its just that almost every other good technology company put in the due diligence before Toyota and implemented well before them.
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Old 01-17-18, 01:15 PM
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Toyota is not a tech company. Their current product line makes that painfully clear
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Old 01-17-18, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by venom21
Its just that almost every other good technology company put in the due diligence before Toyota and implemented well before them.
Hey hey hey now, our motto is "we dont mess around with reliability" is the company line. Inside tho, im sure they were probably thought, if our vehicles are class leading in sales without Carplay damn why even fix something not broken....More money less work
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Originally Posted by lexnewbi
Since they are not supporting wireless and use USB 2.0, it should be a simple port of the software. No big issues supporting older models, except to reduce testing and support costs.
Simple port would be correct, but lets hope they dont follow BMW (and i think Mercedes) who is charging to enable Carplay....
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Old 01-17-18, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lexnewbi
Since they are not supporting wireless and use USB 2.0, it should be a simple port of the software. No big issues supporting older models, except to reduce testing and support costs.
usually apple requires some proprietary hardware, so it is not so simple
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Old 01-17-18, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sulu
A decade ago, Toyota was working with its own technology so it knew exactly what is in it and what it can do.

But now, with Auto and CarPlay, Toyota is being asked to use someone else's technology. Any good technology company will be careful and will do it due diligence before implementing someone else's technology.
i don't buy it. so many companies out there working on solution for years already and there are a lot of solid players out there.

toyota is just slow, simple as that. all we need to look at is the ipod integration, took them years to implement and years later they are still now behind competitors. the ipod / iphone in my lexus crashes every now and then and the system doesn't even display other characters
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Old 01-18-18, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rominl
toyota is just slow, simple as that.
i'd say insular, cautious, and more vertically integrated than other companies... basically they do their own thing. this can be good and it can be bad. but because EVERYTHING's moving to the cloud and car companies have no idea what they're doing in the cloud, they must partner with someone, or perish. toyota's partnering sort of with amazon, which is risky because amazon doesn't make phones (yet).
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna;10085927[b
]i'd say insular, cautious, and more vertically integrated than other companies... basically they do their own thing. this can be good and it can be bad[/b]. but because EVERYTHING's moving to the cloud and car companies have no idea what they're doing in the cloud, they must partner with someone, or perish. toyota's partnering sort of with amazon, which is risky because amazon doesn't make phones (yet).
I agree, however i think its one of those rare moments where, Toyota did not have a respectable answer to in car infotainment. Till this day Toyota is scratching their head on how to reinvent the modern navi system. They have basically the most fragmented ecosystem outhere, where some units are touchscreen, some units are remote touchpad, some are remote mouse systems under the same emblem. Toyota alsos been purchasing into agreements with the random tech. Ford recently comes to mind. They seem to be running around almost towards the opposite end of the popular system department under the guise that their engineers had a better plan or agreement and finally realized, meh, why invest in nothing and join the boat. Thankfully toyota hasnt suffered in the sale department so their running around has not cost them marketshare, cause at the end of the day, infotainment although important, is just one part of things to look for when buying a vehicle.
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Just read on Macrumors that Lexus said they will not offer Apple CarPlay on pre2019 models - can anyone verify?!
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Old 01-18-18, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenRX17
Just read on Macrumors that Lexus said they will not offer Apple CarPlay on pre2019 models - can anyone verify?!
Lexus does not add technology to older cars. So 2019-future Lexus will have CarPlay.
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Old 01-18-18, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i'd say insular, cautious, and more vertically integrated than other companies... basically they do their own thing. this can be good and it can be bad. but because EVERYTHING's moving to the cloud and car companies have no idea what they're doing in the cloud, they must partner with someone, or perish. toyota's partnering sort of with amazon, which is risky because amazon doesn't make phones (yet).
yes i agree. it worked in their favor in the 90s, but start 2000s it's been working against them
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