Ford Mach 1 battery electric performance SUV slated for 2020
01-14-18, 05:56 PM
#1
Ford Mach 1 battery electric performance SUV slated for 2020
It takes its name from the Ford Mustang Mach 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ9JL2ZkOD4
It's been a big day for the Ford Motor Company. After kicking things off around midnight with the reveal of the new 2019 Ford Ranger, the automaker followed up with the surprise reveal of the new 2019 Ford Mustang Bullitt, bringing the original Bullitt Mustang out with it. That doesn't even include the new Ford Edge ST that we saw earlier this week. Now we have a teaser for the Mach 1, a new battery-electric performance SUV coming in 2020. Mach 1 Bronco anyone?
We have next to no info on the new model, other than what was teased in this short clip. The Mach 1 takes its name from several high-performance iterations of the Ford Mustang, the first dating back to 1969. This new Mach 1 is obviously leagues away from that car in both form factor and power delivery. The teaser shows clips of Ford's new facility in the Corktown neighborhood of Detroit, giving a big hint as to what the Ford Team Edison will be working on. A Mustang GT and an Explorer enter just before a bolt of lighting hits the building.
Chairman Bill Ford said the company was increasing its investments into electric vehicles to $11 billion by 2022. The plan is to have 40 plug-in hybrid or fully electric vehicles in its lineup, leaving plenty of room for some performance variants. GM, Toyota and Volkswagen have all made similar commitments to electrification, though the timeframe varies on each.
We have next to no info on the new model, other than what was teased in this short clip. The Mach 1 takes its name from several high-performance iterations of the Ford Mustang, the first dating back to 1969. This new Mach 1 is obviously leagues away from that car in both form factor and power delivery. The teaser shows clips of Ford's new facility in the Corktown neighborhood of Detroit, giving a big hint as to what the Ford Team Edison will be working on. A Mustang GT and an Explorer enter just before a bolt of lighting hits the building.
Chairman Bill Ford said the company was increasing its investments into electric vehicles to $11 billion by 2022. The plan is to have 40 plug-in hybrid or fully electric vehicles in its lineup, leaving plenty of room for some performance variants. GM, Toyota and Volkswagen have all made similar commitments to electrification, though the timeframe varies on each.
05-22-18, 07:51 AM
#2
Lexus Champion
Ford has let slip a few new details on the upcoming Mach 1 electric crossover.
The automaker says it will be a world car and has even revealed when it will be available in Europe.Ford says the Mach 1 electric CUV will be front-wheel-drive, which is slightly disappointing actually. Perhaps an AWD version will be offered at a later date?
In addition, there’s now a known codename for the crossover – CX430.
The Mach 1 reference is believed to be connected to styling only, meaning the electric CUV will have some resemblance to the Mustang that bares the same moniker of Mach 1.
Back in January, Ford executive Jim Farley teased the Mach 1 by asking: “What happens when this,” the roar of an internal combustion engine is played in the background, “meets an e-racer acceleration?”
He added: “Can a battery electric vehicle stir the soul?”
The 300-plus mile electric CUV should really boost Ford’s electric car sales, which up ’til now have largely relied on plug-in hybrids.
Source: Autocar
05-22-18, 08:22 AM
#3
Lexus Champion
...Ford says the Mach 1 electric CUV will be front-wheel-drive, which is slightly disappointing actually. Perhaps an AWD version will be offered at a later date?
...The Mach 1 reference is believed to be connected to styling only, meaning the electric CUV will have some resemblance to the Mustang that bares the same moniker of Mach 1.
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Source: Autocar
Maybe the obsession with the crossover has jumped the shark?
05-23-18, 06:11 PM
#5
Lexus Fanatic
Well, that post did it....it made me spit out my evening cup of green tea LOL.
Seriously, that was basically my reaction when I saw an electric 4-door Mustang, on stilts, with FWD. The designers have truly lost their minds. The last time I saw something that crazy was probably the back end of the 1959 Cadilllac LOL.
Seriously, that was basically my reaction when I saw an electric 4-door Mustang, on stilts, with FWD. The designers have truly lost their minds. The last time I saw something that crazy was probably the back end of the 1959 Cadilllac LOL.
Last edited by mmarshall; 05-24-18 at 05:49 AM.
05-23-18, 08:47 PM
#7
Lexus Test Driver
A Mach 1 Mustang that's an SUV. Thanks for spitting on the Mach 1 name, Ford. Has Ford been talking to Mitsubishi? Ford and Mitsubishi is trying to form a new definition of stupid.
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05-24-18, 12:07 AM
#8
I didn't own the faster 428ci Mach 1 version but I did once own a 1969 Mustang fastback V8 which is same production period that originated that performance package. For Ford to vomit all over the historically significant and legendary nameplate without simply giving it to the Mustang WHICH IS STILL BEING PRODUCED is one of the most idiotic and insulting moves this company can make after killing off the Focus RS and Fiesta ST and then releasing a completely improved 3-door Fiesta ST for Europe and once again denying it to us in the USA (for 25 years should anyone wish to import one).
Of course people will buy them. Lots of people will buy garbage and underwhelming CUV's and SUVs. Those same buyers also don't care what those vehicles are called or exactly which wheels are driven and how other than that having at least one powerful engine option (or in some cases not even that matters to many buyers). There were SO many other things they could have named this FWD people mover.
Jim Hackett so far is doing his best to live up to the "hack" in his name. Or maybe he wants us to associate the name Hackett with "hatchet" which would be very fitting considering his most recent decisions at Ford.
There is a silver lining in this: the actual Ford Mustang with several performance variants is still on sale and being produced. Even the Mustang EcoBoost with the performance pack is probably faster in the 1/4 mile than the original 1969-70 Mustang Mach 1, ironic and amazing as they still are to drive.
Of course people will buy them. Lots of people will buy garbage and underwhelming CUV's and SUVs. Those same buyers also don't care what those vehicles are called or exactly which wheels are driven and how other than that having at least one powerful engine option (or in some cases not even that matters to many buyers). There were SO many other things they could have named this FWD people mover.
Jim Hackett so far is doing his best to live up to the "hack" in his name. Or maybe he wants us to associate the name Hackett with "hatchet" which would be very fitting considering his most recent decisions at Ford.
There is a silver lining in this: the actual Ford Mustang with several performance variants is still on sale and being produced. Even the Mustang EcoBoost with the performance pack is probably faster in the 1/4 mile than the original 1969-70 Mustang Mach 1, ironic and amazing as they still are to drive.
Last edited by KahnBB6; 05-24-18 at 12:13 AM.
05-24-18, 08:15 AM
#9
Lexus Test Driver
I didn't own the faster 428ci Mach 1 version but I did once own a 1969 Mustang fastback V8 which is same production period that originated that performance package. For Ford to vomit all over the historically significant and legendary nameplate without simply giving it to the Mustang WHICH IS STILL BEING PRODUCED is one of the most idiotic and insulting moves this company can make after killing off the Focus RS and Fiesta ST and then releasing a completely improved 3-door Fiesta ST for Europe and once again denying it to us in the USA (for 25 years should anyone wish to import one).
Of course people will buy them. Lots of people will buy garbage and underwhelming CUV's and SUVs. Those same buyers also don't care what those vehicles are called or exactly which wheels are driven and how other than that having at least one powerful engine option (or in some cases not even that matters to many buyers). There were SO many other things they could have named this FWD people mover.
Jim Hackett so far is doing his best to live up to the "hack" in his name. Or maybe he wants us to associate the name Hackett with "hatchet" which would be very fitting considering his most recent decisions at Ford.
There is a silver lining in this: the actual Ford Mustang with several performance variants is still on sale and being produced. Even the Mustang EcoBoost with the performance pack is probably faster in the 1/4 mile than the original 1969-70 Mustang Mach 1, ironic and amazing as they still are to drive.
Of course people will buy them. Lots of people will buy garbage and underwhelming CUV's and SUVs. Those same buyers also don't care what those vehicles are called or exactly which wheels are driven and how other than that having at least one powerful engine option (or in some cases not even that matters to many buyers). There were SO many other things they could have named this FWD people mover.
Jim Hackett so far is doing his best to live up to the "hack" in his name. Or maybe he wants us to associate the name Hackett with "hatchet" which would be very fitting considering his most recent decisions at Ford.
There is a silver lining in this: the actual Ford Mustang with several performance variants is still on sale and being produced. Even the Mustang EcoBoost with the performance pack is probably faster in the 1/4 mile than the original 1969-70 Mustang Mach 1, ironic and amazing as they still are to drive.
Agreed. The people that will end up buying these cars will not know or do not care about the history.
05-24-18, 06:08 PM
#10
True. The silver lining that the actual Mustang is still on sale with several performance options. But still - to use the Mach 1 name on a SUV spits on the Mach 1 name. That name should be reserve for the Mustang and the Mustang only because of history. This is why BMW refuses to call their 1 Series M the M1. Ford is pulling a Mitsubishi here. An EVO SUV is just as stupid.
Agreed. The people that will end up buying these cars will not know or do not care about the history.
Agreed. The people that will end up buying these cars will not know or do not care about the history.
BMW got around that issue by renaming the old 1-Series into the 2-Series and releasing the M2 (which is basically a modern M3).
Mitsubishi really screwed up with their Eclipse-Cross name of their SUV. That's a sports coupe nameplate they're ruining.
They did make a Pajero Evolution small 2-door SUV in the late 90's though so that is technically canon for them. It had to be produced with an advanced suspension akin to what was used in their Pajero Evo race vehicles that competed in the Paris-Dakar Rally. But the history aside, the current Mitsubishi management isn't even remotely going to pay homage even to that part of their history.
We'll have to see what this stupid Ford SUV will emerge as in production form but if the Mach1 name survives and it is FWD-only AND it even vaguely resembles a Mustang then that will be an even bigger insult than we're currently aware of.
The worst thing that can happen for the Ford Mustang is to create some other "crossover" vehicle that kind-of-sort-of resembles it but isn't nearly as "traditional" or "extreme". That would divert sales away from the base Mustang trim levels and thus... it would screw with the entire business model for one of the last remaining 2+2 RWD 2-door manual gearbox LSD performance cars (with convertibles included) still on sale in the USA by any manufacturer.
I really, really hope that isn't what Jim Hackett is up to over the long term.
05-26-18, 02:04 AM
#12
If they come up with another SUV thing and call it a "Lancer" or worse "3000GT", "Starion" or even "Galant" then they'll have truly had it.
Last edited by KahnBB6; 05-26-18 at 02:11 AM.
08-29-18, 12:08 PM
#14
2020 Ford Mach 1 electric performance crossover: This may be it
We have reason to believe it's this mysterious sporty, practical EV.
Ironically, some of the most compelling evidence are the details that imply it actually has an internal combustion engine. At the back, there's an awkward, long exhaust tip that is practically impossible to miss. And on the sides, there are stickers that say "diesel fuel only." There are problems with these details. For one thing, that tail pipe is so outrageously prominent we sincerely doubt it's really being used. For another, there doesn't seem to be any openings for fuel near the diesel stickers. Also, there's no way Ford is working on a diesel for the U.S. market. And we believe this crossover is for the U.S. market, because it's fairly large.
Further evidence that this is an electric vehicle are the many coverings around the rear to hide what's actually powering the car. That rear diffuser panel is absurdly large, and it hides the rear axle very well. It could be hiding a battery tray, or hiding the fact that there isn't a conventional rear differential, but rather electric motors. Finally, there are the tires on this prototype. They're rather economy-minded Michelin Primacy A/S tires.
Now that this is all established, we should talk about the way this thing looks. As we mentioned, it's a fairly large vehicle, close in size to the Edge and the Explorer. Since the teaser trailer featured an Explorer, along with a Mustang, this makes sense. It's also quite tall, with a huge front fascia and large passenger compartment. The hood and windshield have similar rakes, and the whole thing has a one-box design. In some ways, it looks like a supersized Ford EcoSport. Interestingly, the distance between the front wheels and the base of the windshield is very short, making it look like a front-drive vehicle. We can't say for sure, though, since electric powertrains are compact and can provide rear drive in a practical front-drive-style body.
We still have awhile to see more prototypes and for Ford to provide more details. But at least we do have the 2020 deadline for the car, so we shouldn't have more than about a year and a half to see what Ford has in store.
Ironically, some of the most compelling evidence are the details that imply it actually has an internal combustion engine. At the back, there's an awkward, long exhaust tip that is practically impossible to miss. And on the sides, there are stickers that say "diesel fuel only." There are problems with these details. For one thing, that tail pipe is so outrageously prominent we sincerely doubt it's really being used. For another, there doesn't seem to be any openings for fuel near the diesel stickers. Also, there's no way Ford is working on a diesel for the U.S. market. And we believe this crossover is for the U.S. market, because it's fairly large.
Further evidence that this is an electric vehicle are the many coverings around the rear to hide what's actually powering the car. That rear diffuser panel is absurdly large, and it hides the rear axle very well. It could be hiding a battery tray, or hiding the fact that there isn't a conventional rear differential, but rather electric motors. Finally, there are the tires on this prototype. They're rather economy-minded Michelin Primacy A/S tires.
Now that this is all established, we should talk about the way this thing looks. As we mentioned, it's a fairly large vehicle, close in size to the Edge and the Explorer. Since the teaser trailer featured an Explorer, along with a Mustang, this makes sense. It's also quite tall, with a huge front fascia and large passenger compartment. The hood and windshield have similar rakes, and the whole thing has a one-box design. In some ways, it looks like a supersized Ford EcoSport. Interestingly, the distance between the front wheels and the base of the windshield is very short, making it look like a front-drive vehicle. We can't say for sure, though, since electric powertrains are compact and can provide rear drive in a practical front-drive-style body.
We still have awhile to see more prototypes and for Ford to provide more details. But at least we do have the 2020 deadline for the car, so we shouldn't have more than about a year and a half to see what Ford has in store.
08-29-18, 06:08 PM
#15
It won't be called a "Mach 1" though. It seems enough Mustang fans were angered by that suggestion that Ford backtracked. However the front end styling may remain similar to a Mustang. Ugh.
Why is it a difficult concept for some automakers to understand that not every grille and/or front end in a brand's model line needs to look the same and that each of their vehicles SHOULD have unique looks that differ from one another in order to emphasize their own unique personalities?
No one is going to believe that this EV crossover is in any way truly related to a Mustang.
https://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-wo...after-all.html
Why is it a difficult concept for some automakers to understand that not every grille and/or front end in a brand's model line needs to look the same and that each of their vehicles SHOULD have unique looks that differ from one another in order to emphasize their own unique personalities?
No one is going to believe that this EV crossover is in any way truly related to a Mustang.
https://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-wo...after-all.html