Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

2019 Audi A8L

Old 10-13-17, 10:56 AM
  #31  
situman
Pole Position
 
situman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 3,408
Received 162 Likes on 112 Posts
Default

Wow the who exterior styling is so...incohesive. Are they trying to be ugly or pretty? Aggressive or boring? I got confused passed the grill. Oh that grill.

With the instrument and center console going full tablet, what's gonna happen when those things start glitching? Or when those screens die completely? How much will it cost to replace those craps?
situman is offline  
Old 10-13-17, 11:27 AM
  #32  
riredale
Instructor
 
riredale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Oregon
Posts: 857
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 35 Posts
Default

Whatever happened to the Bose active suspension system from a decade or more ago? I remember a video in which it literally leaped up and over a curb. In fact, I think it used a Lexus as a test vehicle.

In theory, one could design a look-ahead system that could take out ALL ride irregularities, leaving just a smooth, magic-carpet swoopiness. Probably require huge amounts of power to drive the suspension, though.
riredale is offline  
Old 10-13-17, 12:53 PM
  #33  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,438
Received 2,497 Likes on 1,800 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by riredale
Whatever happened to the Bose active suspension system from a decade or more ago? I remember a video in which it literally leaped up and over a curb. In fact, I think it used a Lexus as a test vehicle.

In theory, one could design a look-ahead system that could take out ALL ride irregularities, leaving just a smooth, magic-carpet swoopiness. Probably require huge amounts of power to drive the suspension, though.
It was too heavy and expensive for actual production use.

This Audi system seems pretty close.
SW17LS is online now  
Old 10-13-17, 01:07 PM
  #34  
pman6
Racer
 
pman6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: CALIFORNIA
Posts: 1,903
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by situman

With the instrument and center console going full tablet, what's gonna happen when those things start glitching? Or when those screens die completely? How much will it cost to replace those craps?
no one owns this kind of car long enough for the screen to glitch out.

You don't see 20 year old audi's like you see 20 year old lexuseses
pman6 is offline  
Old 10-13-17, 01:20 PM
  #35  
damtachoa
Pole Position
 
damtachoa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: CA
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

This Audi A8L is starting at $82K with 0-60 5.5 seconds? No, Thanks.
damtachoa is offline  
Old 10-13-17, 01:24 PM
  #36  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,505
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by damtachoa
This Audi A8L is starting at $82K with 0-60 5.5 seconds? No, Thanks.
With most street-driving, the 5.5 second 0-60 is probably a non-issue. Most people don't usually drive pedal-to-the medal, except sometimes if a quick burst of speed is needed on a two-lane road to pass someone safely...or to merge safely into fast-moving traffic. The reason it costs 82K is apparant if you have seen the way Audi interiors, materials, fit/finish, paint-jobs, and the general engineering of their Quattro AWD systems are done....and this is their sedan flagship.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 10-13-17, 05:32 PM
  #37  
MattyG
Lexus Champion
 
MattyG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: RightHere
Posts: 2,300
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by damtachoa
This Audi A8L is starting at $82K with 0-60 5.5 seconds? No, Thanks.
That's why you go with the Sport trim with the V8 TFSI for the 450 hp and 0-60 in 4.4 secs. Starting at a pricey $92K but I doubt Audi flagship buyers are worrying about purchase cost since they're likely leasing one of these.
MattyG is offline  
Old 10-14-17, 08:32 PM
  #38  
RXSF
Moderator
 
RXSF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,041
Likes: 0
Received 69 Likes on 42 Posts
Default

everything, including this, is a good deal compared to the S class....
RXSF is offline  
Old 10-14-17, 09:46 PM
  #39  
oldcajun
Racer
 
oldcajun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,419
Received 49 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

The real issue for most of the customers in this price range is lease cost, not retail price. Unfortunately, Audi has, in the past, had high lease costs compared to MB and BMW. With the new LS coming in at lower retail and historically good lease deals, Audi might have to bite the bullet to move any quantity of these.
Steve
oldcajun is offline  
Old 10-15-17, 08:30 AM
  #40  
Sulu
Lexus Champion
 
Sulu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,309
Likes: 0
Received 30 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
That
48-volt electromechanical suspension system
is
This gave me a chuckle, reminding me of those human-like cars in Disney Pixar's Cars series of movies (those with young children will probably know what I am talking about). The cars in these movies are able to pick up individual wheels to hop, skip and jump over and around obstacles.
Sulu is offline  
Old 10-15-17, 09:36 AM
  #41  
UDel
Lexus Fanatic
 
UDel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ------
Posts: 12,274
Received 296 Likes on 223 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pman6
no one owns this kind of car long enough for the screen to glitch out.

You don't see 20 year old audi's like you see 20 year old lexuseses
Issues with those touch screens pop up in newer cars too, they often cost a fortune to replace.
UDel is offline  
Old 10-15-17, 10:22 AM
  #42  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,505
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pman6
You don't see 20 year old audi's like you see 20 year old lexuseses
You probably will in 20 years. Audi quality has improved enormously in recent years...even with the scandal.

Last edited by mmarshall; 10-15-17 at 02:45 PM.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 10-15-17, 11:14 AM
  #43  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,438
Received 2,497 Likes on 1,800 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by UDel
Issues with those touch screens pop up in newer cars too, they often cost a fortune to replace.
I read a lot of forums, I would say touchscreen failure across the entire industry is very rare.
SW17LS is online now  
Old 10-15-17, 11:45 AM
  #44  
LexBob2
Lexus Champion
 
LexBob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 10,987
Received 137 Likes on 111 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by damtachoa
This Audi A8L is starting at $82K with 0-60 5.5 seconds? No, Thanks.
C&D tested a 2016 A8 with the 4.0T engine that did 0-60 in 3.9 seconds.
LexBob2 is online now  
Old 07-19-18, 04:56 PM
  #45  
Hoovey689
Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,283
Received 122 Likes on 82 Posts
Default It goes on sale this fall, and a V8 comes next year

2019 Audi A8 starts at $84,795 with a turbocharged V6

It has been a full year since we first saw the 2019 Audi A8 flagship luxury sedan, and more than half a year since we drove it. Now we finally know how much it costs and when we can get it here. It goes on sale this fall, and the base price with destination charges is $84,795.

That puts it at just $150 more than the base rear-drive BMW 7 Series, and about $3,000 less than the all-wheel-drive version. It's also about $6,000 less than a base rear-drive Mercedes S-Class. While that makes the Audi A8L a good value in the German luxury car scene, competitors from other countries undercut it. The Lexus LS starts at under $80,000 and every version of the Cadillac CT6 starts at less than the Audi with the exception of the CT6 Platinum, which starts at $85,290.

The Audi A8's base price nets just one available body style, the long-wheelbase model, fitted with a turbocharged 3.0-liter V6 making 335 horsepower and 369 pound-feet of torque. It's coupled to an 8-speed automatic transmission and all-wheel-drive. And for the time being, this is the only engine available in the A8. For those that simply can't deal with six cylinders, a V8 version is coming in summer 2019.

As with European Audi A8Ls, the American version will be available with a number of high-tech optional features. Among them is a suspension that can raise and lower each wheel preemptively in order to better handle bumps and aid in handling. Four-wheel steering and an adaptive cruise control that can handle acceleration, braking and steering at low speeds are also available. Audi specifically says that the adaptive cruise is a hands-on system. It is not to be confused with the Level 3 semi-autonomous technology the company previewed for the car. According to a representative, the company is not yet ready to offer it in the U.S. based on a variety of factors including legal ones. Of course all of these features, and certainly the aforementioned V8, will cost more than the nearly $85,000 base price.
Source
Hoovey689 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jimisbell
LS - 3rd Gen (2001-2006)
0
06-29-17 02:37 PM
Slickcam
GS - 1st Gen (1993-1997)
10
02-26-16 08:03 AM
ibidu1
GS - 3rd Gen (2006-2011)
6
01-09-13 09:12 AM
tonyfazt
LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000)
1
11-13-10 08:53 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: 2019 Audi A8L



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:17 PM.